Ornate Group :)

[mikesfrogs]

This is my ornate group. Some of them should be ready for breeding soon.

1 super red female samurai line
1 blue line female samurai line
1 samurai red ornate male
1 male red ornate
1 female ornate
1 odd dark ornate

[Kira Hudson]

can they be housed together

[Eric Buschman]

Nice looking frogs you've got there! I especially like the one in the first picture because of how bold his colors are. Question time; do you know what the difference between a regular pacman frog and a samurai frog? Just wondering and thought I'd ask.

[Eric Buschman]

can they be housed together

I'm no expert but I've been told no. Because they're cannibalistic and will eat anything they can fit in their mouths

[mikesfrogs]

Sometimes you can get away with it. I wouldnt do it though.

As far as the difference in the samurai gene its hard to notice unless you see a lot of them. Usually the type of color and pattern gives it away.

[Eric Buschman]

Ahh. Very cool. Thanks for the fast reply. I've got another question though, What's the difference between an ornate and a regular? Sorry for bombarding you with Q's. I'd just rather get the answer from someone I know has them and has experience with them rather than a random person on the internet :P

[Kira Hudson]

then how do you get them to breed sorry im still realy new to frogs

[mikesfrogs]

Ornate is a different "sub species".
C. Ornata
C. Cranwelli

Ahh. Very cool. Thanks for the fast reply. I've got another question though, What's the difference between an ornate and a regular? Sorry for bombarding you with Q's. I'd just rather get the answer from someone I know has them and has experience with them rather than a random person on the internet :P

[mikesfrogs]

They are in a different mode when breeding and usually won't feed at that time. Some adults will bite eachother. My samurai pacmans are great examples of that.

[Ra]

They are in a different mode when breeding and usually won't feed at that time. Some adults will bite eachother. My samurai pacmans are great examples of that.

Ive never owned an Ornate. How do they compare to a Cranwelli?

[GrifTheGreat]

I have Cranwellies and an Ornate. Ornates are usually described as more aggressive and are said to be more colorful, but on the coloring I've learned that they are not always more colorful that Cranwells. I've seen some very dull dark colored Ornates and some extremely bright Cranwellies. I purchased my Ornate from Mike here and he is an excellent buy. Very Oxblood red and has a nice pattern on him. I also have a Samurai Blue male and he is very bright in color. his Seafoam Green coloring and Blue splotches are very striking and beautiful and he is only a medium Sam Blue. The Samurai Blue is a Cranwelli morph. The Super Red Blue Line Ornates which is what I have have a nice bright blue/greening down their back. Hence the name.

Now on the aggression part as Ornates are known to not only be aggressive feeders, but also with their care taker. Its probably just me, but I'm never attacked and he usually doesn't even get mad at me for picking him up out of his burrow and giving him a bath I have always been good with animals and I must give off some sort of vibe that lowers aggression twards me or something, but when it comes to food lets just say I wouldn't feed then by hand even though I have before. How you treat your frog and respond to it reflects how they will respond to you. Remember that

Now Sanguine is my first Ornate, but I could immediately see the difference in how they move and their attitude. They also flatten themselves out when they feel threatened or are just grumpy. I believe Jessica of Ivory Reptiles described them as giant pancakes of doom Lol!! Very fitting. Their bone structure is completely different in shape compared to Cranwells. They also have a more striking pattern on their back and usually have short snouts.

I hope this helped a little. Mike can describe how he gets such good colors with his breeding and maybe give some details that I may have forgotten

[GrifTheGreat]

Awesome Ornates Mike. That dark one is kind of the odd one out He looks cool though.

[Lija]

awwwwwwww!!!!! i want one too now, so pretty.