Euthinization not working HELP

[RedHed]

NEosporin + pain relief euthinization not working ?!?!? How long is this supposed to take i put it on his back but he is still suffering

[mrzoggs]

ummmmmmm omg. my stomach dropped reading this. try more?......... i dont think its painless to them. GOOGLE

[RedHed]

I feel so sick im freaking out its been almost 30 min .... The Pain reliever is pramoxine .... Thats bad right ?! Im the worst frog owner i cant even help him die right

[PooOnShu]

Ugh. While we're at it, can someone post a care sheet on how to euthanize?

I thought I read somewhere that you should use benzocaine spray, but don't quote me on it.

[Kira Hudson]

im sorry please dont miss con screw my ignorance for cruelty but wouldn't the freezer work well as frogs dont make there own body heat once again im new please dont think me cruel

[mrzoggs]

why are you euthanizing the frog? it must have plenty of life left if it wont die that easy... anything with a numbing agent i think.

[BlueisallIneed]

Take it to a vet ASAP if you can't do it right. Don't just start putting a bunch of chemicals on it! Why are you trying to kill it anyways?! What's wrong with it?

[GrifTheGreat]

The Neosporine should have Benzocain in it. Is it a different brand? Any numbing/painkiller ointment should euthanize the frog, but there are other ways. The freezer is not considered humane and ice crystals forming on live tissue is quite painful.

Why are you euthanizing your frog? What is wrong with it?

Do as Blue has said and take it a vet to be put down. You're prolonging its suffering.

[SkeletalFrog]

Ugh. While we're at it, can someone post a care sheet on how to euthanize?

Would folks find this helpful? I could whip one up pretty easily.

[GrifTheGreat]

Would folks find this helpful? I could whip one up pretty easily.

It would be helpful, but we don't have one here. Skeletal maybe you should submit a sheet to John on how to humanely euthanize your frog if the need to end their suffering arises.

[PooOnShu]

Would folks find this helpful? I could whip one up pretty easily.

It would sure beat trial and error.

[Kira Hudson]

like i said im sorry im newer to frogs thats the safist most human way for fish make a 50/50 mix of vodka and warm water then when the fish is sadated place it in fridge for half hour then fishy heaven

[UncleChester]

Would folks find this helpful? I could whip one up pretty easily.

Please do, this would be a valuable resource that could save much unnecessary suffering. Something about when this last resort should be taken would probably be a good idea.


Even if the idea of doing it to one of your own pets is awful and you'd rather leave it to a vet, if people know you are a frog lover some time you might be faced with friends calling you when they've found an injured amphibian. Sadly, not everything can be nursed back to health. How many frogs suffer lingering deaths from bad but not instantly fatal lawnmower accidents? Having a 'kill kit' on standby is just a good idea.

[PooOnShu]

Here's how to kill a cuban tree frog. Maybe it'll work? (I never thought I'd be helping someone kill a frog)

The Cuban Treefrog in Florida

[Bruce]

This is so sad if the frog was fighting and surviving during euthanizion, he must have still had a strong will to live and fight

I honestly don't think I could do it myself to one of my frogs if I ever had to, I'd have a vet do it in fear of this happening

[RedHed]

The frog was euthanized first by normal neosporin (the wrong tube was applied) the frog was doing "death rolls" and contorting. My fridnd who is a vet tech rushed over and we both decided that the frog was dying and in alot of pain. The neosporin was an old tube that did not contain any ingridients that would kill the frog. After 30 min my friend looked up the active ingridient used in the new neosporin tubes and realized mine didnt contain it. We used oragel on the frogs pelvic patch and the convulsions and spasms stopped soon after and she died quickly.

Im glad you all care alot about these animals and their well being. The frog wasnt "strong enough to fight the neosporin" he was dying a painful horrible death and i wanted his suffering to stop.

[DC101]

I read through this and i feel so sad. My stomach is churning.

Not the best thing to read when i got my frogs today...

I hope i never have to do what you had to amy but sometimes its better, you know

[flybyferns]

The frog was euthanized first by normal neosporin (the wrong tube was applied) the frog was doing "death rolls" and contorting. My fridnd who is a vet tech rushed over and we both decided that the frog was dying and in alot of pain. The neosporin was an old tube that did not contain any ingridients that would kill the frog. After 30 min my friend looked up the active ingridient used in the new neosporin tubes and realized mine didnt contain it. We used oragel on the frogs pelvic patch and the convulsions and spasms stopped soon after and she died quickly.

Im glad you all care alot about these animals and their well being. The frog wasnt "strong enough to fight the neosporin" he was dying a painful horrible death and i wanted his suffering to stop.

Amy
Oooooooooh ! this is , just , so sad !
I am very, very sorry you have had to go through this!

In hind sight --This terrible ordeal brings up some important things worth intelligent, informed discussion and consideration.

I may be wrong, but I think it's highly unlikely that FF will ever have a "How-To" sheet on euthanization !!!

Knowing how to recognize when euthanization is necessary , be it a free frog from the backyard or a 4000$ dog, should be the very first thing one should think about when deciding to take on the responsibility of pet ownership. Why ? Because it is the only thing that is 100% guaranteed to occur at some point.

Very basic questions need consideration:
Will my frog recover? Is there sever pain or an overwhelming injury causing pain and trauma ( ie a scrape vs the frogs entire abdomen torn open) Will trying to save the frog cause even more suffering? Can the frog eat, and/or digest its food? Will force feeding it cause additional pain or suffering ( ie feeding a frog with 2 broken legs) Very common sense questions!

Any vet - can help during a time like this. So, ALL of us should tuck that 40$ in a little froggy ( piggy bank ) for that inevitable day.

Like children ( yes , like children ) frogs DO NOT come with instructions ! That part is up to us !
And yes , just like children, we can spit them out !!!!! , but unfortunately , very often things do not go so well.

Is is NOT neosporin ( as you know) ---- it is benzocaine which is found in a tooth pain product called Orajel. Knock-off brands should not be used. There is even a home recipe using Ethyl alcohol and another using colve oil. I'm sure anyone can find these instructions by searching the wonderful www. However, the piggy bank method works best!

This is merely my opinion, but, this is really something a vet should do! It is the very most important thing one should do for a suffering pet. They are depending on US for this more than their daily care throughout there entire lives.

Again- Amy- I'm very sorry !

[mshine1217]

Amy,

Thank you for letting everyone know about the bigger picture. We are sorry for your loss. I can emphathize with the panic that you were going through at the time.

Yes, instruction on euthanasia would be a welcome addition to the care sheet library. As much as we hate it, death is a part of the cycle and sometimes we need to humanely help our buddies. A care sheet explaining the most humane way to proceed would be appreciated by all.

[Bolisnide]

The frog was euthanized first by normal neosporin (the wrong tube was applied) the frog was doing "death rolls" and contorting. My fridnd who is a vet tech rushed over and we both decided that the frog was dying and in alot of pain. The neosporin was an old tube that did not contain any ingridients that would kill the frog. After 30 min my friend looked up the active ingridient used in the new neosporin tubes and realized mine didnt contain it. We used oragel on the frogs pelvic patch and the convulsions and spasms stopped soon after and she died quickly.

Im glad you all care alot about these animals and their well being. The frog wasnt "strong enough to fight the neosporin" he was dying a painful horrible death and i wanted his suffering to stop.

Amy, I'm so sorry to hear about this! What happened in the last few days since your last post? How is the other frog doing?