Too skinny? And other issues. Please help!

[frogged]

Okay. I actually posted a thread a while ago worrying about potential parasites. So the doctor told me to treat both with a dose of panacur and a dose of metranidazole.

The issue is this. Somehow, the frogs haven't excreted any faeces for about one week. This means I can't actually tell if there are any parasites remaining. However, their appetite is steady, and activity levels haven't seem to change at all, and I do not witness any strange behavior either.
This is then compounded by the fact that despite their continuous and quick diet, they still appear skinny, which does make me think they still have parasites. I am extremely confused about what I can do now; and was just about to make their permanent tank from which they will shift to.

Skinny: When turning to another side of the tank wall, a severe indentation appears in the side of their tummies, sort of like a dimple. Seem rotund when in rest. If sides are gently squeezed, one can push inwards quite a bit.

Will be coaxing them to poop in lukewarm water and a dose of honey tonight.

Enclosure: ~7 gallons temporary
Inhabitants: 2 White's tree frog, <1cm short of each other.
Humidity: Country's humidity is high, I have no clue where to pick up a hygrometer. Estimated to be 50-60%, and I do mist twice daily when the clean paper towel substrate dries.
Temp: 28-29 day, 23-25 night, in celsius.
Water for both misting and soaking dish: Dechlorinated tap water, changed daily.
Substrate: Paper towel
Items in enclosure: Plastic container for water bowl, two clean toilet rolls for hides. Cleared of any obvious stains and impurities. Water bowl rinsed each time.
Main food source: Juvenile Lobster Roaches and mealworms, we try to feed the white ones.
Vitamins and Calcium: Haven't done so. Will do so immediately on the next feeding. :/
Lighting: Natural indirect lighting
How temperature is maintained: Natural during the day, aircon turned on at night.
Most recent meal: Two days ago
Have you found poop lately: Scraggy piece a week ago.
Age of frog: Small frogs, unknown age.
Owned for: One month
WC or CB: Unknown, believed to be WC
How often frog is handled: Daily when cleaning, never unnecessarily
High/low traffic area: Bedroom, somewhat low traffic

Pictures to come. PLEASE HELP and a sincere thank you in advance!!!!!!

[ariesheiress]

Please posts pictures... they really can be helpful ! Sorry your frogs aren't feeling well! Hope you get parasite-less frog poop soon! Have you quarantined them throughout this process? Have you boiled their decorations, branches, etc?

[frogged]

They haven't been pooping, so in this case, there is no identifiable need to boil their accessories apart from the daily cleaning.
I just tried the warm water thingy, one of them farted, and the other just sat there. No signs of faeces yet.

Here are the photos so just check them out please! I think the two main guesses are along the lines of prey impaction and emaciation.
Note hip bone indentations, the line down the frog's back.

SLURP, the smaller, blue shade individual who did not start off with parasites, I am unsure if he caught it, but my current guess is no.
In the 3rd picture, Gulp is sitting below him.




GULP: The larger individual who came in with parasites. Like I said, I am unsure of his condition right now.


The last set of faeces I saw in the enclosure was a week ago, characteristic of improvement from a parasite infested frog, but I cannot honestly point out who it belonged to.

[BlueisallIneed]

I would separate them and I would boil and clean everything. You can't see what could be in the tanks. Better to be safe then sorry. I would doing daily soaks in warm water, each. So if they do poop you can see who's is who. Doing everything separate. Good luck.

[frogged]

I would separate them and I would boil and clean everything. You can't see what could be in the tanks. Better to be safe then sorry. I would doing daily soaks in warm water, each. So if they do poop you can see who's is who. Doing everything separate. Good luck.

Will do so. What advice with regards to whether their skinny or not? Are they in safe levels?

[BlueisallIneed]

They seem ok as for weight for now. I would keep a daily journal on them and write down poop, food days things like that.

[frogged]

Update.

GULP: SVL 7cm, 20g
SLURP: SVL 5.5cm, 20g.

That doesn't sound too great.

[frogged]

Should I continue feeding them with lobster roaches, opt for a force fed slurry, or wait until they have pooped?

Anything with regards to laxatives? I've heard anything from olive oil, fish oil, castor oil, mineral oil. Which should I be using?

[frogged]

Should I continue feeding them with lobster roaches, opt for a force fed slurry, or wait until they have pooped?

Anything with regards to laxatives? I've heard anything from olive oil, fish oil, castor oil, mineral oil. Which should I be using?

HELP? I am technically due to feed them today based on the schedule.

[frogged]

Great update. Spotted a well sized set of faeces in the waterbowl yesterday, accompanied by a bunch of insect parts. Hopefully with more warming and more honey, I can evade the use of olive oil. I am not sure who these faeces belong to, though, the suspicion is Gulp, as he looks slightly thinner at the base of the abdomen currently.


Here is it.