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    This is my second day as the owner of a pac man frog, and I was hoping my first post would be a general introduction, but I'm afraid he's having a problem already. I put a few calcium dusted crickets in his tank this evening, and he tried to go after one, but he missed and got a tongue full of coconut fiber instead. He seemed to be trying to spit some out/brush it off, and I figured he'd go on as usual once that was taken care of. Shortly after, he went into his water dish, which did at least clean his tongue off nicely. Again, figured it would go back to normal soon. Several hours later, though, the tongue is still out and I'm getting worried. He has not shown any interest in eating since the tongue incident, and he is still in his water bowl.

    Here is some setup info, if it makes a difference. He is in a larger sized critter keeper with a shallow water dish on one end and a hermit crab heating pad on the opposite end. Moist coconut fiber is what I have in there for the burrowing substrate. In the middle, I have gauges to check the temperature and humidity. Humidity is currently around 80, temp 75 which I think is a little low on the temp? I don't know how old he is, but I am guesstimating his size at maybe 2 1/2 inches. Btw, I keep saying "he" but he could be a she for all I know. He has not eaten since I have had him (this is his second day with me), but the lady at the pet store said he ate two crickets on the day I brought him home. He has not pooped that I am aware of. I have looked, but am not 100% positive that I would recognize frog poop. Thank you in advance for any advise you can give me!

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    pics would give us an idea whats going on. I will say it doesnt sound good.. but with out seeing it I dont know what to tell you.

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    I put him in that other tank for a minute and took it out on the porch so I could try to get a decent picture with the ipad

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    Ok, update. I managed to gently help him get the tongue back in his mouth, and I'm going to take him to the vet on Monday (closest frog-treating vet I could find is an hour away and I can't make it there before they close) to check out his tongue/mouth situation and just have his health in general checked out. Until then, though, do you guys have any advice on what I should do about feeding? Should I offer him crickets again? Some other type of food? I'm afraid we'll have a repeat of the tongue incident, and it scared me to death. I just want to do what is best for the little guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizzlewuzzle View Post
    Ok, update. I managed to gently help him get the tongue back in his mouth, and I'm going to take him to the vet on Monday (closest frog-treating vet I could find is an hour away and I can't make it there before they close) to check out his tongue/mouth situation and just have his health in general checked out. Until then, though, do you guys have any advice on what I should do about feeding? Should I offer him crickets again? Some other type of food? I'm afraid we'll have a repeat of the tongue incident, and it scared me to death. I just want to do what is best for the little guy.
    He looks pretty emaciated. I recommend giving him a Luke warm de-chlorinated Pedialyte soak.

    You'll need to go buy some UNFLAVORED Pedialyte. Prepare a solution at a 10 to 1 ratio. So for every 10 ounces of De-chlorinated water add 1 ounce of UNFLAVORED Pedialyte. The water should be just slightly warm to the touch and no deeper than up to the frogs chin. This will provide much needed electrolytes and some nutrients to give him a little energy boost. The duration if the soak should be 20 minutes.

    Be sure that you buy UNFLAVORED PEDIALYTE. It will be clear and say unflavored on the bottle.

    Let us know how well he reacts to the bath.


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    Thanks, Grif. I happen to already have an unopened bottle of unflavored pedialyte (2 young kids), so I'll get right on that.

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    Thanks, Grif. I happen to already have an unopened bottle of unflavored pedialyte (2 young kids), so I'll get right on that.
    Excellent!!


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    Looking a little healthier or just wishful thinking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizzlewuzzle View Post
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    Looking a little healthier or just wishful thinking?
    Its progress, how long is he about two inches? why not just give him a whole nightcrawler?

    If he continues to be think consider a parasite problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizzlewuzzle View Post
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    Looking a little healthier or just wishful thinking?
    If he seems ti be more active by Pacman standards and doesn't seem lethargic and over all acts normal besides having to be force Fed it is definite progress.

    Rat's suggestion is a good idea. offer him a whole night crawler. Just make sure its not too large. Some of the ones I get are the size of small snakes


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    Thanks y'all, I'll try a whole one this evening.

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    Another picture of Packy. Also wanted to say that after this evening, I will never again doubt my ability to recognize frog poop.

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    lookin better, much less emaciated.

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    I agree with Ra. Looking much better. Keep it up!!


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