just water as substrate

[Ra]

I don't understand why people keep placing 2 cannibalistic frog together living in the same tank and actually believe that nothing bad will happen. If I were you I'd listen to Jim and delegate them immediately. No good can come from them being housed together.

Ive read (in a book by the Bartlett's) that two to three similarly sized ADULT Frogs can be kept in a large (30-40 gallon aquarium size) enclosure, so long as they were all similarly sized and werent competeting for space. I kept two specimens in a display tank that were the same size before, in the past. Its not something I would risk today. But keeping a 6" frog with a 3" frog is just stupid, especially since they can eat food items about 50% of their own size. Im sure its just a matter of time before that little guy gets gulped. I also think those front faced exo terra terrariums like the one in the picture, which are taller than they are wide, are less than useful for a Pacman Frog, those terrariums are designed for arboreal creatures. Its really a waste of space and of a kind of nice terrarium that would be better suited to some little tree frogs, and the space that the Pacman frogs do have to occupy is extremely small.

[Deac77]

Ive read (in a book by the Bartlett's) that two to three similarly sized ADULT Frogs can be kept in a large (30-40 gallon aquarium size) enclosure, so long as they were all similarly sized and werent competeting for space. I kept two specimens in a display tank that were the same size before, in the past. Its not something I would risk today. But keeping a 6" frog with a 3" frog is just stupid, especially since they can eat food items about 50% of their own size. Im sure its just a matter of time before that little guy gets gulped.

Ra ive read the same but i still wouldn't keep even same sized pac's together we had 2 6in females in a tank at the store (pet store i worked at before petsmart) and they both ended up dying because one tried to eat the other and suffocated as bad as it sounds i was glad when it happened because i had warned my boss for several weeks prior and he said i was just being paranoid needless to say i got a apology after complained about the lose of 2 frogs we shouldn't have lost.

[mason12]

Im gonna keep them together, or try and rade them both for one bigger one.

But anyway I put back together my old terrarium setup and added the eco earth again

I cleaned the water after the picture was taken

[Ra]

Im gonna keep them together, or try and rade them both for one bigger one.

But anyway I put back together my old terrarium setup and added the eco earth again

I cleaned the water after the picture was taken

A little too wet, the coco fiber doesnt need to be a mud puddle.

[mason12]

Really ? So just damp?

[itwasme]

The rule i go by is if you squeeze it in your hand it should clump but not have any water dripping off.

[mason12]

alright i added some more eco earth
hows it lookin?

[GrifTheGreat]

The rule i go by is if you squeeze it in your hand it should clump but not have any water dripping off.

Some water should drip out when you squeeze the eco earth just not a stream. It needs to be moist or heavily damp. Just damp won't cut it and the substrate will dry quickly. Just as long as it isn't muddy all will be fine.

[GrifTheGreat]

Ive read (in a book by the Bartlett's) that two to three similarly sized ADULT Frogs can be kept in a large (30-40 gallon aquarium size) enclosure, so long as they were all similarly sized and werent competeting for space. I kept two specimens in a display tank that were the same size before, in the past. Its not something I would risk today. But keeping a 6" frog with a 3" frog is just stupid, especially since they can eat food items about 50% of their own size. Im sure its just a matter of time before that little guy gets gulped. I also think those front faced exo terra terrariums like the one in the picture, which are taller than they are wide, are less than useful for a Pacman Frog, those terrariums are designed for arboreal creatures. Its really a waste of space and of a kind of nice terrarium that would be better suited to some little tree frogs, and the space that the Pacman frogs do have to occupy is extremely small.

There is nothing wrong with using these 12"x12"x18" tanks for one adult male Pacman. Females require more space, but an adult male can live happily in a 5 gallon tank so these Arboreal Exo-Terra tanks are excellent for an adult male which I keep my adult males in. They can live their entire life in a tank of this size. Females require no less than a 10 gallon due to their size once they reach adulthood. Also these tanks hold humidity and heat very well and are also good for using lights as a heat source because it allows you to keep the lamp high above the frog producing good heat without a drying effect and no harm will come to the frog. It just depends on what type of setup and heat sources you are going to provide for you frogs.