picky pacman?

[Lija]

you can refer to me as she by the way

thank you guys for your replies.

as for UTH - I have never had any problems with those, once you stick it on - it is forever there and working, at least for me on my snakes terrariums, but those are positioned on a bottoms, so may be that's why. I think I'll go with Grif advice for combining UTV and lamps, I tried it last night and liked, so once lamp is turned out the UTV is on, and vice versa- this way I got where I needed to be and when I went with Ivory reptiles advice on keeping temp not higher then 80 the humidity is ok for 2 days now.
I checked night heat lamps at the store yesterday and it looks the same as red ones, but give lower heat, I think I can stick with lower voltage for red ones, the lower it is the less you pay for electricity cos when you have 8+ tanks it might get pretty expensive so right now the temp were at 70 at night and 80 during a day, is it all right?

what do you think about heat cables? is it safe to use? if I can figure out to to stick it to the side as opposed to the bottom.

and another question - the guy refused a night crawler yesterday, but he might have been still full. and he pooped again last night, my god how much poop they can produce, unbelievable :lol: how frequently would you suggest feeding him? one worm every 2 days?

[GrifTheGreat]

you can refer to me as she by the way

thank you guys for your replies.

as for UTH - I have never had any problems with those, once you stick it on - it is forever there and working, at least for me on my snakes terrariums, but those are positioned on a bottoms, so may be that's why. I think I'll go with Grif advice for combining UTV and lamps, I tried it last night and liked, so once lamp is turned out the UTV is no, this way I got where I needed to be and when I went with Ivory reptiles advice on keeping temp in 80 the humidity is ok for 2 days now.
I checked night heat lamps at the store yesterday and it looks the same as red ones, but give lower heat, I think I can stick with lower voltage for red ones, the lower it is the less you pay for electricity cos when you have 8+ tanks it might get pretty expensive so right now the temp were at 70 at night and 80 during a day, is it all right?

what do you think about heat cables? is it safe to use? if I can figure out to to stick it to the side as opposed to the bottom.

and another question - the guy refused a night crawler yesterday, but he might have been still full. and he pooped again last night, my god how much poop they can produce, unbelievable :lol: how frequently would you suggest feeding him? one worm every 2 days?

I wouldn't go with heat cables. You would need a thermostat to keep temps in check and prevent a fire. Never place the UTH on the bottom of the tank either. Pacman Frogs are burrowers and will burrow over the UTH and possibly cook themselves because they won't understand why they can't cool off by burrowing. Best place is on the side of the tank opposite the water dish.

Offer food daily and skip a day between feedings if you like. Once your frog fully matures you can offer food every 2 days and he/she should be fine. You can dial the light down at night to keep temps in check. 70° is too cool at night you should go no lower than 76, but try and maintain a night time temp of around 78°. This should keep your frog nice and warm and active. If you want to call them active Lol! 82° Is a good day time temp so don't go higher than 82° for ideal climate.

Keep us posted on his/her progress.

[Lija]

no, the ones that I have on a bottom are for my snakes, but the thing is for my pacman right now I have 2 small sized UTH attached on a side, but even for that small tank the temp are never higher then 70, when the lamp is off, the thermometer is attached close to UTH, so it is probably even lower that 70 in the other side... hm... will try to attach another one and play with lamp dimmer to get the temp you are advising. will try to do what you're advising on a food too. hope it'll work.

thank you

[Lija]

and another question, since I'm in a war zone with this guy , if I ever get another one is it better to get smaller baby or older bigger one? does age matters as a factor in them being more difficult to feed and keeping them happy and as stress free as possible?

[arielgasca420]

and another question, since I'm in a war zone with this guy , if I ever get another one is it better to get smaller baby or older bigger one? does age matters as a factor in them being more difficult to feed and keeping them happy and as stress free as possible?

I think the babies are cute and you get to watch them grow up. I got mine at a year old and it was easier for me to feed him with tongs because he was bigger. I dont have to worry so much about MBD now that he is 2 and i dust his food a lot less now. Dusting is tricky and I am always afraid what is the right schedule to dust as they are maturing. I dust once every two weeks and gutload my crickets.

I would suggest a juvenile state only because they are less fragile. It is totally up to you though.
just keep in mind that getting another one is a long term commitment. expect to be taking care of two frogs for another 10+ years. on the flip side, pacmans are easy to rehome if it ever becomes too much for you.

[Lija]

NOOOOO! there is no way I'll part with any of my pets, that I have ... hm... probably close to 20 right now not counting fish in a tank out of those - 4 frogs. If one is getting someone as a pet - it is for life, unless you're a breeder, or foster parent - then its' different. that's my understanding. don't get people who are getting someone because they are so cute and stay cute for a year and then getting rid of them.

they say if parents deprive children of having pets, they'll most likely get a lot when they are adults - that is probably the case for our family, and we love them all!

but I must say frogs are very addictive, i got 3 more but different ones since that pacman, we were looking at albino pacman lately and there's show soon here, so I've been thinking to get a bigger terrarium, put in divider, so it is 2 tanks within one and get another pacman but that is just an idea, that may some day became a reality

[arielgasca420]

NOOOOO! there is no way I'll part with any of my pets, that I have ... hm... probably close to 20 right now not counting fish in a tank out of those - 4 frogs. If one is getting someone as a pet - it is for life, unless you're a breeder, or foster parent - then its' different. that's my understanding. don't get people who are getting someone because they are so cute and stay cute for a year and then getting rid of them.

they say if parents deprive children of having pets, they'll most likely get a lot when they are adults - that is probably the case for our family, and we love them all!

but I must say frogs are very addictive, i got 3 more but different ones since that pacman, we were looking at albino pacman lately and there's show soon here, so I've been thinking to get a bigger terrarium, put in divider, so it is 2 tanks within one and get another pacman but that is just an idea, that may some day became a reality

I agree with you on that. Most of my pets I have rescued from irresponsible owners and so I have to find them good homes now so that when I move I will have enough room. I am trying to keep my pacman and pixie but I have to downsize my other animals. I have 6 rabbits right now because I saved the mom and babies from becoming snake food, a guinea pig that someone abandoned on craigslist because her kids got bored and now they want a dog instead, and a bearded dragon and her sister that were a year old and in a ten gallon tank, both tails were waten off because of starvation!
The frogs were the only animals I have bought from a retail store and they are very addicting. I am constantly throwing down so much money to make sure they have the best environment. I am still learning and i am still a noob, but it sure is fun to learn this stuff! i look forward to people coming into my house and asking if my fat pixie is real.
I have always liked the fantasy pacmans. they have a different pattern and cool colors.
Mine is kind of plain, he is not too colorful, I would prefer one with more red, but It is hard for me to part with anything I take in. I bond too quickly to all my animals/insects.

[GrifTheGreat]

and another question, since I'm in a war zone with this guy , if I ever get another one is it better to get smaller baby or older bigger one? does age matters as a factor in them being more difficult to feed and keeping them happy and as stress free as possible?

Like Ariel said Juvenile would be best. Half dollar sized is what you want. It takes a lot more patience go care for quarter sized or less.

[Ra]

Like Ariel said Juvenile would be best. Half dollar sized is what you want. It takes a lot more patience go care for quarter sized or less.

and somehow....alot more food. They dont stay that small for very long.

[arielgasca420]

well you can try it once if he is very undernourished and see what happens. this is an emergency vitamin liquid for reptiles and should only be used sparingly to keep them from dying. I had to use it for my cham because I had no choice. chams are more sensitive to stress than frogs and it broke my heart to force feed her but it was either that or watch my cham die without at least knowing that I tried. It is a quick process and will stress them out but sometimes this is what you have to do to get them the nutrients they need if they refuse to eat. I used a medical syringe that had a very small tip so that I can gently ease it in without having to open the mouth completely.
Just a heads up, you will need some sort of measuring plate because the measurements have to be precise. (at least that is how the rescue cal was like)

Repta-Aid Critical Care Formula from Fluker's&reg - Supplements & Medications - Reptile - PetSmart

[GrifTheGreat]

and somehow....alot more food. They dont stay that small for very long.

Very true . They require a TON of food due to how much extra nutrition they need during these crucial growth stages in their lives.

[GrifTheGreat]

no, the ones that I have on a bottom are for my snakes, but the thing is for my pacman right now I have 2 small sized UTH attached on a side, but even for that small tank the temp are never higher then 70, when the lamp is off, the thermometer is attached close to UTH, so it is probably even lower that 70 in the other side... hm... will try to attach another one and play with lamp dimmer to get the temp you are advising. will try to do what you're advising on a food too. hope it'll work.

thank you

Your temp gauge could be wrong too. Maybe think about buying another and see what it says. Some are not very accurate and others only work for a short time then lose calibration. Try a digital temp/hygrometer comb and see what it reads. 3 UTH would be overkill and I don't feel that to be safe. only use 2 and the lamp.

[Lija]

that is actually what I've been thinking, right now I put 3 hydrometers and 2 thermometers that I had laying around, and after 2 hours all show different things in more or less same spot. will get digital on tuesday, everything is closed here tomorrow and on Monday ( Canada day) gosh... how come nobody cares about crazy people like me who'd drive all over city to get something for their frogs :lol: for now I'll try those 2 small UTH that I have at night and lamp for a day. I wonder if it is possible to calibrate thermometer/hydrometer in general.

do you think it is ok to buy from a show? I'm thinking they sit in a plastic cups here, nowhere to hide really, everybody is looking, lifting them up in a that cup + time/stress of getting to the show, etc... we will go on opening day early am, so whoever we'll get ( if :lol shouldn't endure too much stress during actual show.

[GrifTheGreat]

that is actually what I've been thinking, right now I put 3 hydrometers and 2 thermometers that I had laying around, and after 2 hours all show different things in more or less same spot. will get digital on tuesday, everything is closed here tomorrow and on Monday ( Canada day) gosh... how come nobody cares about crazy people like me who'd drive all over city to get something for their frogs :lol: for now I'll try those 2 small UTH that I have at night and lamp for a day. I wonder if it is possible to calibrate thermometer/hydrometer in general.

do you think it is ok to buy from a show? I'm thinking they sit in a plastic cups here, nowhere to hide really, everybody is looking, lifting them up in a that cup + time/stress of getting to the show, etc... we will go on opening day early am, so whoever we'll get ( if :lol shouldn't endure too much stress during actual show.

Always inspect the animal be fore you purchase. Pacman Frogs should look rotund and their head should not be larger than their body size. A huge head and small body is a sign of a unhealthy animal.

[Lija]

hey there, so the dude is continue not eating, he ate that worm that I wrote about and ever since ( a week now) I'm offering him every night exactly like with first one with no response. I got a digital term and temp are now - 74-77 at night and 80-82 during a day, humidity is about 70-80, he had a bath again yesterday and while he was out I measured him, he is 0.188Lb and a bit over 3', he should be about a year old now, my 3 month pixie is about same size he tried to bite me thou when I was taking him out after his soak that I took as a good sign, but he refused night crawler later, at night again , then i gave him a few crickets, all still are running around.
what should I do?