hole in skin of albino african clawed frog

[PHYSCODELIC63]

about 2 yrs ago bud ugly started getting puffy, I did reseach and went to a forum and they said treat him for bloat & I did and it did nothing for him even though he had classic signs. I was told to stick a needle in his skin and suck fluid out from under his skin! I said no way, I don't know what I am doing #1 and #2 if I killed him I would feel just rotten! So I took him to a vet, now we live in Illinois no where near a place where there is any exotic vet places, so this vet is basically researching the net for answers and I am paying her for it! She said to her it looked like the fluid was in wrong place to try and drain it and she thought saline soaks would work so she had sterile saline from a hospital sent home and do 2 times a day for 15 min for a week and bring him back, that didn't do anything, took him back, she said keep doing it , I was supposed to bring him back again but I called her and told her there was no change and after 100$ I couldn't afford any more $ and she said that she thought he had congestive heart failure? I just said o.k. she said just like humans all things can retain fluid. well after 2 yrs he just kept ketting more and more puffier and jigglier in his back legs and on his back, either his log or his skin has stretch so much that it has cause a hole and now has released all that fluid! he has never looked better in so long, all his puffiness is gone. His water was foamy. I cleaned his tank, all the water start over fresh, new filter in the system and before I added it i ran vinegar water through it to and then a lot of clear water, the tank has been scrubbed and rinsed really well with vinegar a natural disinfectant and deorderant I also clean my crab tanks with this. his river rock has been rinsed really well to. I don't know what to do with this hole in his skin, will it heal on it's own? he is about 13 or 14 yrs old.

[rodsboys]

That is so gross. I have never heard of that happening. I am glad that at least one of your problems has seemed to be solved. The hole should heal on it's own. I wouldn't mind seeing a pic of it.

What are you feeding him? Is there other tank mates?

[PHYSCODELIC63]

No, he is an only froggie of one. Frogs like him are very rare around here, you might find them once in awhile for sale in a pet shop or at kays gift shop stuck in those small containers and they are the size of your thumb or smaller. That's why when the chance came up to get him I did { read my intro to myself }. I reseached all over and could never find anything that looked like what he had and no treatment worked. He will only eat turtle food pellets, I have spent money on countless other types of foods and even tried this gut feeding or what ever they call it and all the food just goes to waste cause he will not eat it, he only gets fed 2 -3 pellets a day, I use a whisper brand filter system, I try to clean out his tank once every 2 weeks, sometimes it might be 3.. I'm really busy with 2 jobs it might be a while before I get a pic of the hole

[rodsboys]

What part of Illinois are in you in? I am originally from there.
When you clean his tank do you interrupt or reset your cycle or are you careful to keep the bacteria alive?

[rodsboys]

Have you seen this tragic thread? Any chance your guy looked like this?

http://www.frogforum.net/aquatic-cla...us-laevis.html

[PHYSCODELIC63]

Have you seen this tragic thread? Any chance your guy looked like this?

http://www.frogforum.net/aquatic-cla...us-laevis.html

no, I did look at the site, his skin was all puffed, jiggley and soft, started in his legs and worked up. All I can think of is it might of started when I got really sick one winter and his tank got really dirty and I couldn't clean it for a long time. I have always used filters and a filtration system and done things the same way for the past um teen years.I don't understand all this talk of bacteria , nitrate levels and such that people throw out..it is to hard for me to understand. I do what the the drops on the bottle says, when I clean his tank and he poops a lot so I put him in a container with some of his water and dump the rest and when I put him back in that water goes back in with him..the one time it was tested by the petstore guy he said it was fine. I did saline soaks that my vet said to do for 2 wks and it did nothing.

I live in the central part of Illinois, in a small town in between to 2 cities that have small pet stores that really don't have much for pet stores

[mpmistr]

The nitrogen cycle is quite simple. The waste from your frog produces ammonia, which is then broken down into nitrite (both of which are poisonous and you want both to be at 0ppm), anyways nitrite is brown down to nitrAte.. which you want at about 20ppm.. it's not as lethal to your frogs as the other two but you still want it under 50ppm at the very least.

What starts this process is your beneficial bacteria, which breaks down the ammonia to nitrate.. usually most of this bacteria is stored in your filters media (which is why you should never replace it just rinse it off with dechlorinated water because chlorine will KILL the bacteria).

Hopefully your frog recovers, do you have a photo of him??

[emberlisa]

about 2 yrs ago bud ugly started getting puffy, I did reseach and went to a forum and they said treat him for bloat & I did and it did nothing for him even though he had classic signs. I was told to stick a needle in his skin and suck fluid out from under his skin! I said no way, I don't know what I am doing #1 and #2 if I killed him I would feel just rotten! So I took him to a vet, now we live in Illinois no where near a place where there is any exotic vet places, so this vet is basically researching the net for answers and I am paying her for it! She said to her it looked like the fluid was in wrong place to try and drain it and she thought saline soaks would work so she had sterile saline from a hospital sent home and do 2 times a day for 15 min for a week and bring him back, that didn't do anything, took him back, she said keep doing it , I was supposed to bring him back again but I called her and told her there was no change and after 100$ I couldn't afford any more $ and she said that she thought he had congestive heart failure? I just said o.k. she said just like humans all things can retain fluid. well after 2 yrs he just kept ketting more and more puffier and jigglier in his back legs and on his back, either his log or his skin has stretch so much that it has cause a hole and now has released all that fluid! he has never looked better in so long, all his puffiness is gone. His water was foamy. I cleaned his tank, all the water start over fresh, new filter in the system and before I added it i ran vinegar water through it to and then a lot of clear water, the tank has been scrubbed and rinsed really well with vinegar a natural disinfectant and deorderant I also clean my crab tanks with this. his river rock has been rinsed really well to. I don't know what to do with this hole in his skin, will it heal on it's own? he is about 13 or 14 yrs old.

I don't know anything about this because I'm a new ACF owner, but I just wanted to comment and say that I think you're doing a great job taking care of him! I think I've read online that holes and injuries usually disappear on their own. Hopefully it'll clear up soon and he'll be as good as new again.

[PHYSCODELIC63]

i took one of him this morning and will get it posted soon, have crabs to take care of and summer reading, and my cleaning job, i'm pooped! o.k. i will rinse it will dechol water, i have that for my crabs water, sorry for the small caps i have myself proped up on one elbow about ready to just die.. long day..............my head is going to explode

[PHYSCODELIC63]

Pictures by physcodelic63 - Photobucket
this is my photobucket of him, the woman and old man is me and my husband. Other pics are the summer reading program we just did and now have 2 months of it left, and just a few pics of my crabs, I don't have a pic of my cat on there, but an other day.

[FrogLover2009]

The hole looks like it will heal just fine, HOWEVER, I would keep checking up on the hole and when it dies heal, make sure he does not start to puff up again. In some cases, even if he has already released all fluids, sometimes the illness can come back if conditions are not up to standard. But he looks like he should do just fine. Just keep en eye out for him.

[PHYSCODELIC63]

it looks like it's starting to heal now, I'm changing his water once a week, saving back a part of it and rinsing the filter with dechlor water like someone said on here.