STILL not eating!

[HerpDerp]

So I think I've posted a couple times on here about different food issues. I have taken all the advice and my pacman frog is still not eating much at all. Here is the list from "trouble in the enclosure"

1. 10 Gallon tank

2. Just the one frog

3. Humidity was fluctuating between 50% and 80% but I recently covered 2/3 of the top in plastic wrap and it's now staying within 10% of 80% (if that makes sense lol)

4. Was having trouble with temps so I bought a second UTH (both are on either side of a corner). Now the temp is around 80-82 on the warm side and upper 70s on the cool side.

5. Water for misting and soaking are both dechlorinated tap water.

6. Eco earth is used as substrate.

7. In the enclosure I have a couple plastic aquarium plants and some live pothos. The plastic plants were rinsed with boiling hot water and then rinsed again with dechlorinated tap water. The live plants were removed from the pots and the soil rinsed from the roots and replaced with eco earth and the pots were put back in the tank for easier cleaning.

8. The main food source is crickets but I also feed dubia and red wigglers

9. I use a supplement with a multivitamin and calcium and was dusting every 5 days or so but now that he's not really eating it's much less often.

10. For lighting I'm using a florescent tropical reptile/amphibian bulb on one side of the enclosure.

11. As I said above, two UTH's

12. Hmm... I actually got him to eat about 3 crickets about a week ago since then I think he at maybe one two days later and two days ago I got him to eat one more (these are small crickets).

13. Found a poop in the water dish a couple days ago.

14. I don't have a recent pic right now but I will try to get one up tomorrow. But this frog is sooo skinny

15. I'm not sure of the actual age but he was the size of a nickel when I got him at the beginning of April and is now about the size of a half dollar.

16. As I said, I've had him since the beginning of April.

17. I'm not sure if he's wild caught or captive bred but I'm assuming captive since he was so small when I got him and I got him from petsmart.

18. I think I covered the different things I feed him. I attempt to feed him every day but am usually unsuccessful.

19. I handle him very rarely. I have been trying to put him in a separate container to feed him to make it easier for him so every few days I need to gently pick him up and put him in there. I always rinse my hands with dechlorinated water before handling.

20. It's just my boyfriend and I in the apartment so the entire place is low traffic. However he is right next to the tv. Would that cause any stress?

21. Water dish gets changed daily. Poops are scooped as they're seen. I change the substrate completely about monthly.

I have been having trouble getting him to eat for a few weeks now. He's never been very round even when he was eating well. I worry that there might be something else wrong that I can control. When I first got him he was eating great but now he hardly ever strikes at food and when he does it's very sluggish and inaccurate. I have tried using tongs and rubbing food against his lips until he bites but he wont bite. He just backs up or hops away. I have read so many posts and just can't figure out why he isn't eating. His backbone is clearly visible. I'm not really sure if he's going to make it. Any ideas would be great.

[GrifTheGreat]

Try a Luke warm UNFLAVORED PEDIALYTE soak. 10 to 1 ratio. For every 10 ounces of Luke warm de-chlorinated water add one ounce of Unflavored Pedialyte. let him soak for 20 minutes. repeat daily go every other day. water level should be no deeper than up to the frogs chin.

If he continues to not eat he may need to be force feed, but try the soak first.

Keep us posted.

[Ivan M]

Also from reading in your other post you just moved him again to the enclosure where you used to keep your crickets, so that again is a new environment to him/her, try and offer food after a few days versus right away, these frogs or many animals for that matter stress out whenever their habitats change. Be patient after moving him from one an enclosure to another. I don't even attempt to feed until after about 3-4 days after the frog has settled in, i have yet to have a frog not eat using this method. When wiggling the worm use tongs if you have, i use med size tweezers you can get at petco.

[HerpDerp]

I can try the pedialite soak and see where that gets me.

And Ivan, I think you misread . I had tried putting him in a smaller tupperware container within his tank to feed him so it was easier for him to eat but that only worked once. And I was considering moving the tank to a different area. I do use tongs and he used to eat from them find but now he just backs up and hops away.

Any ideas as to WHY he isn't eating?? I just can't seem to figure it out.

[GrifTheGreat]

I can try the pedialite soak and see where that gets me.

And Ivan, I think you misread . I had tried putting him in a smaller tupperware container within his tank to feed him so it was easier for him to eat but that only worked once. And I was considering moving the tank to a different area. I do use tongs and he used to eat from them find but now he just backs up and hops away.

Any ideas as to WHY he isn't eating?? I just can't seem to figure it out.

Something is causing stress. I'm just not sure what. Could be anything from being moved around to different enclosures to just not being used to you yet. There are many many factors that can cause them stress. They really hate change. Especially within their environment. So it could be anybodies guess. I'm not there so I can only advise with what info you provide. Those of us who have lots if experience with these frogs know what to look for and can tell immediately if something is wrong because we watch them every day and night. Since we cannot do that with your frog it makes it difficult to pinpoint the problem, but we will assist you to the best of our ability with what you've provided.

[Ivan M]

One more thing, if he ate a week or 2 ago and has decent body weight, where ever you decide to put his tank let him be for a few days before offering food or hovering over him, we frog lovers can do that to our frogs constantly hover over them and watch them, that can cause them stress in the beginning, offer food in his own enclosure WITHOUT removing him from it, once he has eaten a few times then you can try the feeding out of his enclosure if you like. As GRIFF has stated we are not there, but something surely is stressing him out.