Hi !!

[Kurt]

Welcome. Is that a Bombina variegatus? I can't tell, just from one picture. Somebody from Texas contacted the New England Herpetological Society looking for some. They appear to be really scarce in the US.

[Han]

No, it's not the european Bombina variegata, but it's
chinese relative Bombina maxima, the giant firebelly.
My breedinggroup woke up after some 3 months
hibernation in the fridge and once back in their
set-up, the females produced the first eggs.

Han

[Kurt]

Bombina maxima? Way cool! I have never seen any for sale here in the states. Are they common in the European trade?

[Billy]

Welcome. Is that a Bombina variegatus? I can't tell, just from one picture. Somebody from Texas contacted the New England Herpetological Society looking for some. They appear to be really scarce in the US.

That person was me. I contacted NEHS about a month or so ago looking to try and find a group for breeding purposes because they are very hard to find. So far I've had no luck.
Back in the 80's, I remember them being somewhat common, but now the most seen are the Orientalis.
I will continue the search for variegatus, and hopefully I will succeed.

[John]

Most European species that were traditionally supplied to the pet trade from the wild, are going to be very hard to come by now because Europe has really beefed up its protection laws in the last 20 years or so. This is a good thing. It's a pity they can't force the Ukraine to do the same thing so that no more fire salamanders are mass collected.

That person was me. I contacted NEHS about a month or so ago looking to try and find a group for breeding purposes because they are very hard to find. So far I've had no luck.
Back in the 80's, I remember them being somewhat common, but now the most seen are the Orientalis.
I will continue the search for variegatus, and hopefully I will succeed.

[Han]

Bombina variegata (scabra/pachypus) are bred and offered by
several breeders from Germany and Poland.

Han

[tylototriton]

I'm assuming you've noticed the gigantic shipment of N. kaiseri that just recently came in John. Every second rate dealer can sell them now. I can't believe the number that have come in. I thought they were starting to tighten up on their trade.

Alex

[John]

I'm assuming you've noticed the gigantic shipment of N. kaiseri that just recently came in John. Every second rate dealer can sell them now. I can't believe the number that have come in. I thought they were starting to tighten up on their trade.

Those are Iranian newts, I assume wild caught. That has nothing to do with the Europeans and their laws. It's very sad that this species is being collected into extinction. I'm sure they will receive CITES I eventually though and this craze will have been for nothing since hobbyists won't be able to trade them out of their country or state.

[Kurt]

Bombina variegata (scabra/pachypus) are bred and offered by
several breeders from Germany and Poland.

Yeah, but can they ship to the US?

[Han]

Bombina maxima appears to be very rare in Europe too these days
since China, after years of very limited quota, closed its borders.
A massive shipment during the early 1980's of some 2500 wc animals
suffered a severe pseudomonas/trichmonas (?) infection: about 5% survived, mainly in Germany, ancestors probably of all present Bombina maxima in Europe. I'm breeding F3.
Shipping from Europe to the US will take some heavy paperwork, will
be expensive, but is not impossible. A US wholesaler, interested in my Bombina maxima offspring, once contacted me and asked for a
shipment of at least 500 youngsters.
I usually breed some 75 Bombina maxima a year.

Han

[justin shockey]

hi thay are so cut

[Kurt]

That person was me. I contacted NEHS about a month or so ago looking to try and find a group for breeding purposes because they are very hard to find. So far I've had no luck.

Well, I am glad to see you made it here to frogforum.net. Good luck in your search. I will keep my eyes open for any up here.

[Billy]

Well, I am glad to see you made it here to frogforum.net. Good luck in your search. I will keep my eyes open for any up here.

Thankyou much. I will keep my eyes out down here

[Billy]

Beautiful maximas, Han.

[Kurt]

Thankyou much. I will keep my eyes out down here

You're welcome.

Kurt

[jody]

look at em! nice pictures, and welcome.

[lenore]

they look amazing but I've never seen any around here. Anyway Welcome!!! ^^