should i get some green tree frogs and advice with setup and everithing

[miguelanaconda]

More pleople please!

[miguelanaconda]

The substrate Im going to use is eco-earth, but should I put live sphagnum moss on top, or is moss bad for frogs?
Should I provide a water area or a water bowl is enough?

[InfinitysDaughter]

No moss! Its an impaction risk for frogs. Impaction is, like, severe constipation for frogs and its often fatal if you dont have a frog specialist you can go to and get special medicine for them. What I've seen is really effective is using a gravel layer or hydroballs (clay balls that retain water. most specialty pet stores carry them), then a layer of moss, and then a layer of eco earth on top, enough to cover the moss completely. This will do wonders for humidity retention especially with the live plants and will give it a very natural feel for your froggies. :3

[mrzoggs]

from what i understand sphagnum moss can easily impact your frog. when a frog lunges for a cricket it sometimes gets more than the cricket so be careful what you use as substrate. pebbles small enough for the frog to ingest are horrbible. I have used moss before from the pet store. I got it because it had a picture of a tree frog on it. Then the first time i saw my frog eat, he got a piece of moss in his mouth and i watched him pull it out with his hand. Then i read up about it impacting frogs and took it right out. That one time if he didnt pull it out, i might not still have him today. So in my opinion i wouldnt use moss

A water bowl is big enough. i wouldnt provide a water area since it will be hard to keep clean. With a bowl you can just take it out and clean it and put it back in. You might even be able to get some leaf litter to put ontop of the soil so you dont risk the frog lunging for a cricket and getting a mouthful of soil. And like Kitten posted i would look into some LECA or Hydroton (whichever you want to call it) if you want live plants. I myself use a false bottom but i wouldnt go that route for your first frogs. Seems to be more work then necissarey in my opnion. Just get some Hydroton ( clay balls) from your local pet store or hydroponics store and put a layer on the bottom, then add some screen (like window screen) over top so your soil doesnt get inside it, and put your soil over that. Then the water wont sit in the soil and be muddy, it will drain to the bottom. Also if you want it "heavily planted" i would look into a bigger tank in the future because plants grow pretty quick. Plants in my viv are already sticking out of the top (i dont have a screen on yet) and i dont even have my frogs in it yet. Just a couple weeks and my plants are growing like crazy. if you have any more questions let me know. i will try to keep up with this thread and if i dont keep up, feel free to PM me. I do not have these types of frogs but i do have Red eyed Leaf frogs and they seem to be doing just find. Ill be more than happy to help you with anything i can


Edit: infinitysdaughter beat me to it :P

[miguelanaconda]

Thanks a lot both of you, I really appreciate it.
Shoul I put branches in the tank? (As they climb all places, Im not sure)

[miguelanaconda]

Are these what you mean?
Hydroton Clay Pebbles-10 Litres: Amazon.co.uk: Garden & Outdoors
Sorry for being a pest.

[miguelanaconda]

You have to mist daily, depending on humidity, but can you use all kinds of water?
In the tank pics you can see the dehumidifier, wich takes water out of the air.
Can i mist the frog with that?

[InfinitysDaughter]

Are these what you mean?
Hydroton Clay Pebbles-10 Litres: Amazon.co.uk: Garden & Outdoors
Sorry for being a pest.

Not bein a pest. Just want to make the best set up you can. ^^

I'm not sure if there the same thing. Someone who knows more may be able to say if they are or not. These are the ones I have: Zoo Med HydroBalls Expanded Clay Terrarium Substrate - Sand - Substrate & Bedding - PetSmart

As for water, the best is either bought spring water or tap water treated with dechlorinator. I think the kind your talking about is a reverse osmosis system which the process removes vital minerals from the water that your frogs will need.

And yes! Tree limbs and things to climb on are always a good idea. However, if your gona take things from the wild, be sure they are clean of mold or bacteria by soaking them in HOT, nearly boiling, water or a warm water and vinegar solution (1:1 ratio) overnight. If you use the vinegar solution be sure to soak them in dechlorinated water after (preferably over night too) to get as much vinegar out as you can. Its not as harmful as cleaners like bleach but could still be more then a little irritating to them.

[miguelanaconda]

Can someone tell me if this is the same as hydroballs?
Hydroton Clay Pebbles-10 Litres: Amazon.co.uk: Garden & Outdoors