FREE Cuban Tree Frogs

[Confetti]

Hey Confetti, just re-read the conversation- do you have the required class 3 license to send live animals??

No, I don't have a Class 3 license. I'm not a professional animal breeder or seller, I just found these frogs in my yard. I know they are a danger to native frogs and other species, but I'm reluctant to kill them, so I'm looking for another solution. I'm not sure the Class III or any license is required for frogs, though. I've tried to research this some today and yesterday. There's a discussion of whether this permit is required for Cuban Tree Frogs here in this forum.

The Florida Captive Wildlife Licenses & Permits link given in that discussion says: "Wildlife Requiring a Permit .... Section A. There are currently no reptiles listed as reptiles of concern. Former reptiles of concern are now listed as conditional reptiles. A license is required to capture, keep, possess or exhibit Reptiles of Concern." Cuban Tree Frogs are not listed as one of the conditional reptiles, so this section doesn't require a license.

Section E says: "A permit is required for personal possession, exhibition or sale of Class III wildlife. Class III wildlife are all species not listed as Class I or Class II; and not among those species that are specifically listed as not requiring a permit for personal possession in rule 68A-6.0022, FAC." (The Class I & II animals are all big, like lions, bobcats, wolves, giraffes, etc. - no CTFs.)

Rule 68A-6.0022 FAC says: "(2) No permit shall be required to possess the following wildlife for personal use, unless possession of a species is otherwise regulated by other rules of the Commission:
(a) Reptiles or amphibians (nonvenomous, unprotected)."

There's also this:
"68A-6.007 Possession, Transportation, Exhibition and Caging Venomous Reptiles and Reptiles of Concern.
(1) Any person who keeps, possesses, exhibits or sells any venomous reptiles or reptile of concern shall comply with Sections 379.303, 379.304, 379.305, 379.372, 379.373, 379.374 and 379.3761, F.S., and the provisions of subsection 68-5.002(4), F.A.C., and this rule. The following reptiles, including their taxonomic successors, subspecies or hybrids thereof, are designated as reptiles of concern: None listed at this time."

As for federal (national) regulation, I found this statement in a petition asking for stricter rules: "[T]he only Federal regulation on the amphibian trade, 50 CFR §16.14, now allows “all species” of amphibians to be “imported, transported and possessed” without restriction."

So from what I can find, it looks to me like no permit is required to possess or transport CTFs in Florida or the US. If anybody knows differently, please let me know, and please share the rule or law that applies, or your source for the info. Thanks!

[NatureLady]

You should pm TommyBoy he has been working on his project since June and he would be your best bet for proper info!

[Confetti]

You should pm TommyBoy he has been working on his project since June and he would be your best bet for proper info!

Thanks! I sent an email a few days ago, and tried by PM tonight.

[tommyboy]

Yes to legally ship any reptile or amphibian you need a class III license. This is the preferred method if you have the means. It is up to you whether you want to take the risk of fines if caught. The receiver is at no risk of fines. if you have the CTF's already I would not release them back to the wild. I have noticed since I have been capturing them that the native frogs have been showing up a lot more. You can dispatch them more humanely with Ambisol. Ambisol is a strong anesthetic used for toothaches. You can get it at any drug store. it is absorbed through moist membranes like your gums or a the soft bodies of frogs. just one swipe on the back will put the frog to sleep and you can put the anesthetized frog in the freezer. I will speak to the fish and wildlife office and see if there is anything else we could do besides kill them

[toxxxickitten]

I had asked for a trio, but I am thankful for any Cuban Tree Frog I have received for free. Tommy sent me two and I received them last week...on Wednesday I believe? I can't quite remember as my lack of sleep has been making my brain all fuzzy. Anyways, I just wanted to thank Tommy again and post some quick photos I snapped of them while transferring them from their temporary enclosure to their permanent one.

Cuban#1




Cuban#2

[tommyboy]

All but one person received their frogs alive. The one that died was in the mail for an extra day longer than the others and the box was a little beat up. They were a little larger than the others too and may have been a space issue combined with the other factors. I am sending out a couple more to replace them. Also, remember that I am sending out 2 frogs not 3. Many people requested three, but for the sake of getting more people frogs and making shipping safer with less frogs, the max I sent out was two. I am glad that these little guys have a second chance in good homes. Tom

[toxxxickitten]

If possible, though Tommy, when you get everyone on your list squared away I would definitely like a third one. I will pay for the shipping for this one.

[manyhorses733]

hi im new here to this forum but i saw your post and would like 1 Cuban tree frog i just bought on and i only had it for a month when it died it was a young Cuban frog i dont know how long you waiting list is but if you could let me know id greatly appreciate it i love frogs and i lost my white dumpy a few months ago and my African dwarf pair a few months after to some illness and now i went to get a new foggy friend and lost him as well so i would love a new friend you can email me at manyhorses733@yahoo.com just pleas let me know how long your list is