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    Yeah...I have to agree with the others. You're over thinking it. Put them back in the bigger cage, cover half of the top to help keep the humidity in and mist in the morning and again at night if it needs it. Some frogs take awhile to adjust to their new home and wont eat or move around alot at the beginning. Give them time. The more cover they have (ie....a lot of plants with big flat smooth leaves) the quicker they tend to adjust. As recommended give the cricket bowl a try. Cover three sides of the tank with black contruction paper or a dark towel. Something to keep all distractions out of sight. Make sure it is completely pitch black at night for them and quiet. Stop stressing and give them time to settle in.

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    Hi,
    I agree w/ velvety, Don, and Cheri,

    Even though the 20 will seem too large for them, managing things more easily will ease your mind
    Keep substrate simple. ( dampened paper towel w/ de-chlor water)
    The more simple it is--- the quicker you can get in and out to clean.
    I have had babies for about a month (that are about 1/2" now) ; I have them in a 10gal.
    For example ---the enclosure has the following items:
    -one large pothos vine in a little vase of water
    -paper towel substrate that is changes out on Tues and Sat
    -one small pyrex - glass -feeding bowl (in which they are just starting to use)
    -a small soaking dish ( in which they are just starting to use)

    When they are very tiny they will flatten their bellies into the dampened paper towel to soak ( so the dish may not used immediately)
    You will want to keep the paper damp enough for this - but not so wet that the tiny crickets die
    ( nice wet paper towel will likely be all the humidity you/they will need in a 20?--
    w/ a screen top more than 3/4 covered w/ something clear ie plexi or an old pc of picture frame glass )

    The covered top will help hold the temp. ---- and humidity in.
    Feed the frogs daily- in the dish and on the floor.
    I do not remove crickets the pinhead crickets I am feeding daily . I let them get low in # , then replace ( leaving food at all times).
    I add new dusted food ---- at the ,very least, every other day. ( the vits and cal dust falls off!)
    Careful w/ the cricket size! If you are not sure they are the right size- go smaller.
    (Note: I feed my adult red eyes - small crickets)

    Hopefully, you can have more fun now !!! We would love to see photos !

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    Thanks all for the feedback, can't tell you how much I appreciate it!!! I just moved them to the bigger tank and feel better already. Will definitely use a "cricket bowl" and maybe coax them towards it tonight.

    @velvety14u My home temp in summer is about 65, winter is about 60 or so. I'm near the coast so it's always fairly cool, except a stretch in late summer. Thank you for the cricket bowl suggestion. I wanted to do that but the plastic tank was a bit too small.

    @DonLisk I'm pretty much within the range IF I pay close attention. Unattended (if I'm at work or out for the evening) the daytime temp can get up to 90 F and the nighttime temp can go down to 65 F. Not terribly dramatic but enough to worry me gray-haired!!! I didn't realize the humidity could go down to 50% safely, that is a relief for me too. I've been keeping it 70-80%.

    @Cheri Thanks, I am definitely a nervous froggy mama right now, I just love frogs so much I want them to be comfortable. I cover 3 sides of the tank and cover the front too if we're watching tv or we have too many lights on at night. They have a lot of plants in the new tank.

    @Lynn Thanks for sharing your experience. They are about 1.25 inches. I've seen them pressing their bellies into the wet paper towel, only saw them in the water dish once. Again, a relief to know that's what they do when they're little! I will definitely watch the cricket size-- I got the smallest crickets I could but some large get mixed in when I buy them.

    I took a few photos of the new (old!) set up. Will post them shortly. Thanks all for your encouragement and advice.

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    The big tank. I think I may need to add one more plant for hiding places.
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    Sleeping soundly after the big move.
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    Woke one up by accident, whoops.
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    See... they look like healthy happy frogs....no need to worry. Red Eyes are actually pretty easy to take care of. Don't sweat it.

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