Euthanasia?

[cyris69]

I'm sorry to hear about your froggy and wish you both the best!

I just wanted to butt in and see if maybe using all three together as a cocktail would be the most effective way to do it since they all seem to suppress specific things or have specific side affects during the process.

[DVirginiana]

I am sorry to hear about your frog, and hope whatever happens goes down in the least painful way possible for both of you

I'm personally more comfortable with the idea of injections than I am with freezing... Just a personal thing, I don't know anything about them other than what I've read on this and other forums.
Just wondering... How would you go about giving an injection to a frog? It seems like it could be painful or (comparatively) slow if done wrong..
Also, does anyone know if the clove oil works well on other reptiles, or is it just frogs/fish because their systems absorb it so much more quickly?

I'm sorry to hear about your froggy and wish you both the best!

I just wanted to butt in and see if maybe using all three together as a cocktail would be the most effective way to do it since they all seem to suppress specific things or have specific side affects during the process.

I wouldn't. They could interact within an animal's body and potentially result in a slower or more painful death. That might not be the case with these particular drugs, but it's better not to take the risk. Any one of them should do the job quickly, so I would see no reason to mix them.
Someone who knows more about it could give better advice, but from an uninformed POV mixing meds like that is generally a no-no.

[reichiere]

Could you use the CO2/Dry ice method? I know people use it to kill rats.

Stick the poor frog in a container with dry ice in it, (but placed so he can't touch it) as it melts it releases the CO2 and it replaces the oxgyen. From what I understand it supposed to be painless. But I only know of using it for rats, not sure how a frog would react.

I've heard of the clove oil in the water on several fish forums as the best way to euthanase fish.

[SkeletalFrog]

Could you use the CO2/Dry ice method? I know people use it to kill rats.

Stick the poor frog in a container with dry ice in it, (but placed so he can't touch it) as it melts it releases the CO2 and it replaces the oxgyen. From what I understand it supposed to be painless. But I only know of using it for rats, not sure how a frog would react.

I've heard of the clove oil in the water on several fish forums as the best way to euthanase fish.

CO2 isn't currently listed as an approved method of euthanasia for anything outside of birds and mammals, with the suggestion that it simply takes too long in cold-blooded species. I would worry that it wouldn't produce the specific sedative effect that it does in mammals and birds, and that the ability of reptiles and amphibians to tolerate extremely low oxygen levels could severely complicate things.

A primary concern of mine would be acidification of the blood. CO2 becomes carbonic acid when dissolved in water (this is where drink carbonation comes from), so excessive CO2 concentrations can raise blood acidity (conversely, too low CO2, such as at high atmosphere, can decrease acidity and bring on other similarly bad effects). Mammals will die from lack of oxygen long before this becomes an issue, but reptiles and amphibians can tolerate low oxygen levels. However, I know that frogs can tolerate wide ranges in their body fluid acidity as well, so it may not matter.

Personally, I'd advise against it, but only based on an absence of properly collected data. It may work fine, but I'd rather let a veterinary researcher prove that before trying it myself.

[reichiere]

Ahh...

Yah I wasn't too sure if would work, or could work with a reptile due to the difference in the physiology from a reptile and a mammal.

Perhaps a call to the vet? Sometimes even non-specialists will assist in emergencies (Most vets have access to another vet, or survice that advise them) and they may have a chemical that is recommend for Frogs that the vet may have access too. You may be able to work so you just pay for the treatment... or it could even be something you could pick up and bring home... It never hurts to ask!