How to tell sex of Red Eye Tree frog. I just have one

[tommyboy]

I only have one Red-Eyed Leaf Frog at the moment. I want to get at least one more of the opposite sex. I am not sure what sex my current one is. he/she is about 10-11 months old. he/she has never made a noise that I have heard. it seams smaller than other females that I have seen. so I am totally confused. are there other indicators of sex that I can go by? I have hear that you can tell by the nose angle. is this true?

I took a few pictures for reference.

Thanks for the help

Tom

[ViperJr]

Size is quite accurate if you know it's an adult frog, since males are much smaller and less... thick, in lack of a better word. But then again, it's hard when you only have one frog and can't compare. Call is obviously a dead give-away if you actually hear him call. Perhaps he should have called by now, but you don't know for sure. They tend do to a lot less calling when housed alone, especially without males to compete against.
I've never heard anything about nose angle, and I would not use it at all, unless someone can provide solid proof.

[bshmerlie]

Its hard to tell when they are not full grown and you dont have others to compare sizes to. Some males are more vocal than others . Try misting heavily at night and play some Red Eye calls to see if you can get him to chirp. If not you probably have a girl. Or just wait another few months.

[tommyboy]

Its hard to tell when they are not full grown and you dont have others to compare sizes to. Some males are more vocal than others . Try misting heavily at night and play some Red Eye calls to see if you can get him to chirp. If not you probably have a girl. Or just wait another few months.

I have him/her in a vivarium with about 5 gallons of running water. should I install a rain system? What age is full grown? I also have a part 2 to this guy...I am going to buy 10 RETF tadpoles today from a local private breeder. can I put the tadpoles in the water in hi/her vivarium? will he eat the tadpoles? the water is very clean and has some algae on the rocks on the bottom....perfect for tads.

Thanks

Tom

[dendromad]

If you could post a good photo of the inside of the thumbs on the front feet it could help in determining sex.

[ViperJr]

A. Callidryas only develope nuptial pads during breeding season, so that will not be enough to sex it unfortunately (unless he is simulating that with a single male)

[flybyferns]

If you could post a good photo of the inside of the thumbs on the front feet it could help in determining sex.

I think I recall , not positive, that this issue of Reptile Magazine ( August 2011) has good photos.
Good issue to purchase , anyway.

Reptiles - August 2011 - Volume 19 - Number 8

[dendromad]

A. Callidryas only develope nuptial pads during breeding season, so that will not be enough to sex it unfortunately (unless he is simulating that with a single male)

I'm well aware of that, but there is another way I know that has been pretty reliable for me to sex when not in condition. Every female I have seen (and it is a lot) has the white extend right down onto the thumb, in males it doesn't it just barely goes onto thumb only as far as where nuptial pad starts. Have a look at your and see if you can see it.

[tommyboy]

Here are some pics of the feet from this morning. The more I look at him, he is looking more like a male. He has been eating a lot of crickets and has a full belly right now. But he is still has a pretty small waist. let me know what you think

Thanks again

[dendromad]

Here are some pics of the feet from this morning. The more I look at him, he is looking more like a male. He has been eating a lot of crickets and has a full belly right now. But he is still has a pretty small waist. let me know what you think

Thanks again

Sorry my bad, I didn't specify. It has to be the top of the feet/thumb, a little tricker to photograph!

[wesleybrouwer]

If it's fully grown and 2 inches, i would say you got yourself a male.
Calling is done by both, male and female, but the male has 2 distinct calls, the females just one.

[Chaser]

If it's fully grown and 2 inches, i would say you got yourself a male.
Calling is done by both, male and female, but the male has 2 distinct calls, the females just one.

I tthough only the males called..

[tommyboy]

I thought only the males called too. I have recently purchased two more RETF's one is an Albino. The owner said these two have never made a sound. I got them in the vivarium with my retf and now the two that I bought are calling. what does that mean and what do the male calls sound like compared to the females. Mine still has not made a peep.
a pic of Albert the Albino retf