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    I actually have a worms way maybe 25 minutes away from me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyris69 View Post
    I actually have a worms way maybe 25 minutes away from me.

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    There you go ! Maybe they have larger blocks?
    I have always meant to call and ask as the don't show them on their site for that brand of coir.

    They have another that has an additive.
    So, careful to only purchase the pure one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by flybyferns View Post
    There you go ! Maybe they have larger blocks?
    I have always meant to call and ask as the don't show them on their site for that brand of coir.

    They have another that has an additive.
    So, careful to only purchase the pure one!
    I have read that many coco fiber products intended for horticulture have a high salt content, making them harmful to amphibians. I wish pet product companies would price their products a bit more fairly....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ra View Post
    I have read that many coco fiber products intended for horticulture have a high salt content, making them harmful to amphibians. I wish pet product companies would price their products a bit more fairly....


    Don't know about ...... what's in it?
    I have not personally ever used it.
    As mentioned, I would call first.
    All of the hydroponic and horticulture products need questioning.
    If they say they "don't know". I would not use it.

    I do not have substrate in my tree frogs tanks.
    I make my own "AGB" mix for my dart frog enclosures.

    Here is how you make "ABG" Mix.
    1 part milled peat- careful where you purchase this !!!!!
    1 part milled sphagnum moss ( I chopped my own )
    1 part fine charcoal( I actually used 2 parts charcoal )
    2 parts fine tree fern fiber
    2 parts fine orchid bark

    Every component for AGB is available at good prices:
    OFE International Web Page
    or here
    rePotme Orchid Supplies - Orchid Mix - Orchid Pots - Orchid Care - Orchid Fertilizer

    BUT... call 1st regarding the products/ packaging.....exposure to chemicals

    If you have an opportunity to get to a show....you might be able to buy in bulk and get a much better price?
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    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Default Re: Safe alternatives to coco-fiber?

    Please pay attention to the products you may use. Cocotek contains rubber, it is not pure coco fiber. You want a high grade coco peat the contains low sodium levels.

    I tend to be very economical when choosing products, and often look for alternatives to pet products as many pet substrates are simply repackaged for the trade and given a higher price. On the other hand, products repackaged for pets are generally safer, for instance the coco fiber wont contain salts, the reptile barks and frog mosses wont contain dyes etc.

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