budget frog... dying?

[alex]

Hi,

I think it is a kind of an emergency...

Here are the facts:

I have 2 budget frogs. They are ~2.5 years old.

I keep them in a "all water" setup, with submerged water filter and branches, etc.

3 days ago, I feed them with pinky rats, nothing special about it.

Last night, one of the from became super-hyper: jumping against the windows, splashing all around. I was wondering a bit...

Now, I just realize that the frog (same one I guess) is now laying on the water filter, partially out of the water, not moving with blood drip on both knees. The frog is "hard", stiff, and all the white/beige color on the stomach is light red/brown.

The other frog is in perfect shape.

Water is clean, no floating particles, etc.

Could it be what is called "redLegs disease"? (in a clean water thank?)
or
Maybe the pinky was ... indigestible?

Let me know if there is something I should do...

Regards,

Alex
Québec

[alex]

forgot to say:

I guess the blood drip on the legs are indirectly due to the problem... maybe the healthy frog tried to bite the other because it wasn't fast enough. For sure this is not the main problem.

[alex]

how looks an "asphyxiated"/exhausted frog? Does the stomach turn pink/red?

maybe because one frog starts to be hyper, it exited the other one, so the other one bites the hyper one (it happens 2-3 times a years, quickly, with no consequence). Maybe the "fight" turned to be almost deadly this time?

Basically, maybe the frog is just exhausted... that would explain the blood drips too.

[GrifTheGreat]

how looks an "asphyxiated"/exhausted frog? Does the stomach turn pink/red?

maybe because one frog starts to be hyper, it exited the other one, so the other one bites the hyper one (it happens 2-3 times a years, quickly, with no consequence). Maybe the "fight" turned to be almost deadly this time?

Basically, maybe the frog is just exhausted... that would explain the blood drips too.

I would seperate the ill frog from the other. set up a hospital tank with the same temp water, but have something That the frog can climb on to get out of the water. Something is not right and he will need to be watched carefully. I suggest a visit to a vet that specializes in amphibians. I'm not sure what is going on, but the frog is severely stressed. You should post some pictures of both frogs and their setup.

[GrifTheGreat]

I am no expert and do not own Budgett's Frogs. Post you questions here http://www.frogforum.net/budgetts-frogs/thIs way a member who does own this species can see you post and try and assist you.

[alex]

thank you, I'll re-post on the other subject's forum.