help!! shaking leg!!

[aztecfrogmaster]

is this normal?

[SwimminSteve]

They're both doing it? Jeez, no I don't think it's normal. I've never seen that before. Maybe someone else has.
Are they still able to swim to the surface for air? If not, place them in a container with just enough water to cover their bodies.
What are your water parameters?
Tank size? Filtration? How old are the frogs? Did this just start?

[mpmistr]

This is a total shot in the dark but is there anything electrical that should be shocking the water? Have you tried turning off your lights, filter, heater, ect???

[Yusil]

Actually, to me it looks like it's having a fit. Perhaps it's got a problem on the inside [nerve issues/muscle spasms]. Like Steve said, perhaps leave them with only enough water to keep them moist, because if it is a muscle spasm[or other ailment], then they could potentially drown.

You should take them to be checked out by a Vet, but in the mean time make sure that they can get to the surface to breath and if not, do as suggested and keep only enough water to keep them moist.

Do they do this on a regular?
Also, it could potentially have something to do with their food, so you should monitor wether or not this happens after they eat or after they do something different from normal.

Take into consideration how they were before they started to do this, what's changed and how frequently they do it now, and maybe you can back-track and stop whatever it is from causing them to do this.

But in the end, I still recommend a Vet.

[Heatheranne]

It looks as if he may have some twitching. This could be a sign of a nutritional deficiency. I do not have these types of frogs, so I do not know if the replacements are done in the same manner.

My pacman frog had this problem when I brought him home from the mall. A few days of food dusted with calcium/vita D3 and then multivitamin a couple times, it stopped.

See if you can ask a few others with that frog species. I have used liquid calcium drops in my frogs water in the past.

[aztecfrogmaster]

Sorry for my poor English
i just put them in a clean recipient with bottled water, dust the water with calcium+d3 and some pellet food ,they are fine by the moment.
i think can be a problem with the water or calcium deficiency maybe, i will not put them in its old tank, until i change Everything.
A big thanks to all of you!

[Heatheranne]

I think it may be also.

[SailAwayAK]

Just curious about the frogs and how they are doing? Did you figure out what in the tank was causing all this?

[aztecfrogmaster]

hi they are just fine now , was calcium deficiency i think.

[mpmistr]

hi they are just fine now , was calcium deficiency i think.

glad to hear it, beautiful tank, by the way.

what size tank is that? and how are you filtering??? =)

[Heatheranne]

I'm glad they're doing well .

[tgampper]

hi they are just fine now , was calcium deficiency i think.

Glad your frogs are doing well. This is one reason why this forum is so great, so many members offering accurate advice. Thanks to all who helped out!!!!

Like reptiles, amphibians are also prone to metabolic bone disease (osteodystrophy) which is basically an imbalance of calcium, phosphorus and Vita A/D3 in the diet. MBD affects clawed frogs, Axolotls and other large amphibians like bullfrogs, horned frogs and White's treefrogs. It is difficult to determine if the symptoms are related to MBD. Some signs include: splayed legs, open mouth, bone deformities, listlessness, skeletal fractures, prolapse, water holding, cramps and spasms.

Simply put, MBD is caused by improper or inadequate diet. Amphibians need to have a diet rich in calcium but low in phosphorus. Ideally, the Ca:Po ratio should be 1:1 to 2:1. A diet too rich in phosphorus will prevent the calcium from absorbing into the body. I noticed that ReptoMin has a Ca:Po ratio of 2:1.8. I have been using ReptoMin for years without any adverse affects on the frogs (personal opinion).

A deficiency in Vita D3 prevents calcium from being absorbed in the small intestine. Make sure the Vitamin supplement you are using to dust or gut load the food has Vita D3, not just Vita D.

An excess in Vita A causes a biochemical reaction with the Vita D and the calcium regulating hormones. Dr. Kevin Wright, in his book, Amphibian Medicine and Captive Husbandry, noted that one of the first documented cases of MBD in clawed frogs was in connection with an excess of Vitamin A in the diet. I understand that a product called Herpetal Amphib (Herpetal - Produkte für Reptilien und Amphibien) is a dietary supplement that works very well, but not sure if it's available in the U.S.

Adequate full-spectrum lighting may also help your frogs stay healthy. Some species like to bask in the rays

I hope this helps you prepare a healthy diet for your frogs. Good luck!

[wesleybrouwer]

Don't believe you can fix a calcium/vitamine deficiency that quick by just adding some powder
But well, at least he got better.

What water do you use in the tank?
Aquatic animals tend to take up Calcium from the water they live in rather then from their diet.
Perhaps you use treated water with just little Calcium dissolved in it?
You may use a water test to see how the quality is.
I suspect it may be to acid, since it ressolved at the time you dissolved Calcium in it yourself, making it less acid.

[wesleybrouwer]

http://www.xenopus.com/Water_Hardness_final_proofs.pdf

[aztecfrogmaster]

glad to hear it, beautiful tank, by the way.

what size tank is that? and how are you filtering??? =)

tnank you, it's a power head 1200 liter, the tank have around 50 liter.

i'm still reading the information on the post, thank you.

[pacmanfr0g13]

Could they have toxed out somehow?

[FrogLover2009]

For future reference.....I use these for other illnesses as well:

Can I keep other aquatic life with my ACF?


African Clawed Frog Housing and Feeding


African Clawed Frog Disease and Injury


Disease & Illness