Help?

[grub]

I have had jiraiya for a few months now and recently moved him into a 20 gallon tank. He has allways been an active frog and every day I would see him in his pond or on his substrate. Latley he has looked really sickly and I am not sure what is going on. He is bloated and his eyes are sunken in. He does not bury himself anymore which is an odd behavior because he used to bury himself daily. Today I decided to put him in an ICU which is basically a tufferware container with watered down paper towels and a heat pad with themostat. I also force fed him a cricket that was dusted with calciumn. This is the best i can do for now as I am still looking for a vet that will see him.I was wondering if puttin him in an ICU was a bad idea and may cause more stress to the frog? Or if anyone knows whats wrong with him? He is also very weak he doesn't try to get away when I touch him. Another thing I noticed is that one of his pupils is super wide, and the other looks normal.

[flybyferns]

I have had jiraiya for a few months now and recently moved him into a 20 gallon tank. He has allways been an active frog and every day I would see him in his pond or on his substrate. Latley he has looked really sickly and I am not sure what is going on. He is bloated and his eyes are sunken in. He does not bury himself anymore which is an odd behavior because he used to bury himself daily. Today I decided to put him in an ICU which is basically a tufferware container with watered down paper towels and a heat pad with themostat. I also force fed him a cricket that was dusted with calciumn. This is the best i can do for now as I am still looking for a vet that will see him.I was wondering if puttin him in an ICU was a bad idea and may cause more stress to the frog? Or if anyone knows whats wrong with him? He is also very weak he doesn't try to get away when I touch him. Another thing I noticed is that one of his pupils is super wide, and the other looks normal.

Hi Grub,
I'm sorry your frog is not well?
I can not answer any specific questions regarding what the problem could be.
However, you really should post this in the forum area for your species of frog. ( ie pacman?)
Try to get a close-up photo of he frog.
Cut, past, and answer the following questions:

http://www.frogforum.net/tree-frogs/...enclosure.html

FYI!!I have dealt W/ Dr Frye. Although it is long distance, it works out very well !
You would not get charged for office visits:

http://www.frogforum.net/tree-frogs/...-prepared.html

Hope this helps,
Lynn

[GrifTheGreat]

I see Lynn has told you what needs to be done.

I have to ask if you de-chlorinate your frogs water? bloating is a sign of toxing out syndrome which is caused by your frog be poisoned by chemicals in the water or other toxins that occur naturally through waste and stagnant water like ammonia. Also I see you have moss in his enclosure. Moss can cause an impaction(severe constipation) if accidentally eaten which can lead to death. Bloating is also a sign of impaction. feel the right side of your frog and see if there is a hard mass. If so get some warm de-chlorinated. water and disolve. 3 to 4 drops of honey in it and soak your frog. This will provide an energy boost temporarily and also acts as a natural laxative.

More details are needed to provide anymore info on what may be ailing your frog.

[flybyferns]

I see Lynn has told you what needs to be done.

I have to ask if you de-chlorinate your frogs water? bloating is a sign of toxing out syndrome which is caused by your frog be poisoned by chemicals in the water or other toxins that occur naturally through waste and stagnant water like ammonia. Also I see you have moss in his enclosure. Moss can cause an impaction(severe constipation) if accidentally eaten which can lead to death. Bloating is also a sign of impaction. feel the right side of your frog and see if there is a hard mass. If so get some warm de-chlorinated. water and disolve. 3 to 4 drops of honey in it and soak your frog. This will provide an energy boost temporarily and also acts as a natural laxative.

More details are needed to provide anymore info on what may be ailing your frog.

Good Morning Grif,
Thanks- as usual ,your are a dependable and helpful friend !

grub, I hope all goes well with your frog

[grub]

I am sorry for posting this in the wrong location, Grif I do not declorenate the water, I will research that so i can find out how to do this. As for the moss this picture was taken when I first got him. I have removed the moss after doing research and it has been at least a month since he has been in moss. Today I checked on him in his ICU He looks better, infact he looks just like the picture when he was healthy. The thing that worries me is he has not had a bowl movement since he has been in the ICU. So i will check for impactation and I might try the honey bath. He may have toxicoutsysndrome as I have well water. Thank you for the help, I will try to see if he has a bowl movement befor i move him back in his cage.

[GrifTheGreat]

I am sorry for posting this in the wrong location, Grif I do not declorenate the water, I will research that so i can find out how to do this. As for the moss this picture was taken when I first got him. I have removed the moss after doing research and it has been at least a month since he has been in moss. Today I checked on him in his ICU He looks better, infact he looks just like the picture when he was healthy. The thing that worries me is he has not had a bowl movement since he has been in the ICU. So i will check for impactation and I might try the honey bath. He may have toxicoutsysndrome as I have well water. Thank you for the help, I will try to see if he has a bowl movement befor i move him back in his cage.

It is critical that you use a de-chlorinating agent for all your frogs water. You can buy these at local pet shops that have reptiles and fish. Look for Zoo Med Aquasafe. I use it and it works well. You may want to have your well water tested. High levels of heavy metal can also cause Toxins Out Syndrome. Prime is another good de-chlorinating agent. keep me posted on your frogs condition.

[grub]

Well I put him back in his cage, but I set him up in a 10 gallon and moved the 20 gallon tank outside. He buried himself immediately and is acting normal, I think he is going to be alright.

[Bolisnide]

I am sorry for posting this in the wrong location, Grif I do not declorenate the water, I will research that so i can find out how to do this. ... He may have toxicoutsysndrome as I have well water.

Hi Grub,
I too live in New Mexico and also have well water. I don't know where you are in NM, but we typically have high levels of Calcium, Magnesium, and metals such as iron. Buy a de-chlorinator at a petstore that states it neutralizes heavy metals. I use Flukers de-chlorinator and it seems to work fine. I also occasionally use '100% spring water'.
good luck