Found a tree frog?

[Kristen]

Aww i would have thought it was a dumpy white tree frog but i'm not sure,

I'm pretty sure there aren't wild Whites in America, They're from Australia and Indonesia

And looking at the frogs from North carolina I agree with Brian that its Hyla squirella

[toxxxickitten]

I third that it is a Hyla squirella. If you can take on the responsibility of the frog and take care of it, then keeping it, to me, would be no harm. However, if you don't want to take on the responsibility then I would suggest releasing it back into the wild. And if you're going to keep the little one - then I would suggest finding a nearest pet store to start buying insects from instead of from outside. There's no telling what pesticides those insects could have been exposed to...

[kcartwright856]

From what I understand, a lot of these sorts of little guys are wild caught when purchased from the store anyway.

I'm an experienced aquarist with difficult species to keep, and they have all been WC, though I am currently breeding them. Oddly enough, I have almost everything that I understand I'd need at home. A fish tank with mesh lid that had housed some gerbils in years past, plenty of artificial hanging plants, driftwood, etc. So, I don't think it would come down to a matter of not being prepared for the responsibility or housing.

The only thing I'm stuck on is my conscience. With my fish, I know that I'm providing them an excellent, predator-free environment with great meals. While I've spent the past two nights researching the basics on these sub-tropical tree frogs, I don't feel I know enough to make the judgement call on how taking this one from the wild myself differs from buying one from the store that was taken from the wild, shipped in cramped containers and poor conditions, etc.

Torn.

[kueluck]

The other question to ask yourself then is do you want to remove a breeding adult during breeding season? I personally have never bought frogs or toads because of the the whole shipping thing and most are, as you said w/c (you can find c/b but it's rare). I suggest finding some tadpoles and raising them up yourself. This is what I have done and mine are happy and healthy! Good Luck.

From what I understand, a lot of these sorts of little guys are wild caught when purchased from the store anyway.

I'm an experienced aquarist with difficult species to keep, and they have all been WC, though I am currently breeding them. Oddly enough, I have almost everything that I understand I'd need at home. A fish tank with mesh lid that had housed some gerbils in years past, plenty of artificial hanging plants, driftwood, etc. So, I don't think it would come down to a matter of not being prepared for the responsibility or housing.

The only thing I'm stuck on is my conscience. With my fish, I know that I'm providing them an excellent, predator-free environment with great meals. While I've spent the past two nights researching the basics on these sub-tropical tree frogs, I don't feel I know enough to make the judgement call on how taking this one from the wild myself differs from buying one from the store that was taken from the wild, shipped in cramped containers and poor conditions, etc.

Torn.

[kcartwright856]

The other question to ask yourself then is do you want to remove a breeding adult during breeding season? I personally have never bought frogs or toads because of the the whole shipping thing and most are, as you said w/c (you can find c/b but it's rare). I suggest finding some tadpoles and raising them up yourself. This is what I have done and mine are happy and healthy! Good Luck.

Great points.

I think that, this evening, when I hear the calling again, I'm going to go out and search for the area that they are breeding in. It is definitely close.

I'll put this little guy back wherever the rest of them are and look around to see if there are any tadpoles.

[kcartwright856]

Well, I finally found the location of the calling. Or, at least, the calling that matches the Hyla cinerea.

The bushes were far too thick for me to physically locate one of the frogs, but I saw the breeding grounds! It's a small ditch that filled in with rain. There are a lot of tadpoles in it, which really excited me, but then I noticed other frogs at the edge of the ditch. Proper frogs, or maybe even toads. Definitely not tree frogs.

The tadpoles are, to the naked eye, completely black. The body is quite circular and about 4mm each way, with the tail accounting for another 2mm. They are so black... surely these are the tadpoles of the frogs/toads I saw and not the treefrogs?

I tried to get a picture to identify the other frog/toad, but it hopped into the bushes too quickly. It was quite small. Perhaps the size of a large marble. Standard brown/black wild-type color.

I was so excited about gathering some tadpoles, and now I'm certain that these aren't the right ones!

Does anyone have a resource on what to look for in tree frog tadpoles versus other species?

[kueluck]

If they are black they are toads then. I LOVE toads and have raised several of these and find them quite entertaining. Much more active than the tree frogs, which I have 3 Hyla chrysoscelis (Cope's Grey). Here's a link to help identify tads. Guide to Tadpoles