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    Default Setting up 12 x 12 x 18 habitat for red eye tree frog?

    Hey Guys

    I am looking to set up a 12 x 12 x 18 terrarium for a tree frog. Would this size of terrarium be large enough for a red eyed tree frog?

    I have the following equipment already.

    -exo terra 12x 12 x 18 enclosure
    -fogger
    -small water dish
    -fake twisty vine
    -fake plant
    -substrate
    -uv b light
    -Hygrometer and thermometer

    The temp is quite cool (65) and I'm wondering what the best way to add more heat would be (substrate heater? heat lamp/bulb?)

    Let me know your thoughts or opinions! any help would be awesome!!

    Cheers

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    Default Re: Setting up 12 x 12 x 18 habitat for red eye tree frog?

    Hello,
    Welcome to Frog Forum
    Great start! Enjoy !!!
    Check the vines very carefully! Sometimes there are little metal ends sticking out of the bud areas that could cause an injury to your frog.
    65 F is too cool ! See this care sheet:
    A must !! vitamin and calcium supplements ( very small crickets if it is a froglet--common mistake is too large a feeder insect)

    http://www.frogforum.net/tree-frogs/...caresheet.html

    http://www.frogforum.net/members/fly...s-waiting.html

    Seriously consider have these emergency medication on hand:
    http://www.frogforum.net/tree-frogs/...-prepared.html

    Purchase some unflavored pedialyte ( used for therapeutic re-hydration if needed)

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    Default Re: Setting up 12 x 12 x 18 habitat for red eye tree frog?

    Lynn, are you confirming that a 12 x 12 x 18 is large enough for a single adult? Two adults?

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    Default Re: Setting up 12 x 12 x 18 habitat for red eye tree frog?

    Quote Originally Posted by chosen2030 View Post
    Lynn, are you confirming that a 12 x 12 x 18 is large enough for a single adult? Two adults?

    I think that it is temporary for one or two.
    They should really have at least 24" high.
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    Default Re: Setting up 12 x 12 x 18 habitat for red eye tree frog?

    That is VERY small IMO. Not wide enough and definitely not tall enough.

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    Default Re: Setting up 12 x 12 x 18 habitat for red eye tree frog?

    Quote Originally Posted by VooDoo View Post
    That is VERY small IMO. Not wide enough and definitely not tall enough.
    I had thought the same thing, but almost every care sheet that I've read says that a 10 gallon tank is big enough for 2 adults. The dimensions of a 10 gallon tank on it's end, so that the length becomes the height, is 12x10x20, so the surface area is actually nearly identical to the 12x12x18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chosen2030 View Post
    I had thought the same thing, but almost every care sheet that I've read says that a 10 gallon tank is big enough for 2 adults. The dimensions of a 10 gallon tank on it's end, so that the length becomes the height, is 12x10x20, so the surface area is actually nearly identical to the 12x12x18.
    Hi
    Sorry , I lost track of this post. It's not that it would be bad for them, although small !!! It would just be MUCH , MUCH better if it were as tall as possible.
    ie for example -a 10 gallon could be saved for a hospital/quarantine tank( which, ideally should be available anyway)
    Maybe there is a Memorial Day sale at a big box pet joint. See how contagious this is one thing leads to another !!!!!
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    Default Re: Setting up 12 x 12 x 18 habitat for red eye tree frog?

    I was wondering what would be a good system for raising the humidity in this size of an enclosure? The main ones I have seen are the repti fogger, habbamist and exo terra monsoon.

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    Default Re: Setting up 12 x 12 x 18 habitat for red eye tree frog?

    Hi,
    I do not know anything about any of those products, as I use a MistKing.
    MistKing Misting Systems by Jungle Hobbies Ltd Great product. Plus you can use it on several enclosures by adding tubing and mist heads.
    Call, they are very helpful! The 'seconds' timer it comes w/ is great! It can mist up to 6X/day.

    Frogs are not afraid of it !!!
    http://www.frogforum.net/tree-frogs/...mist-head.html

    By the way, Josh Frogs has most of this line as well- same price ( ?? shipping $$)
    MistKing ULTIMATE SYSTEM with Zip Drip Valve | Josh's Frogs

    Above-this is what I purchased- I am very happy with it.

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    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
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    Quote Originally Posted by flybyferns View Post
    It's not that it would be bad for them, although small !!! It would just be MUCH , MUCH better if it were as tall as possible.
    This is what I was going to say, minus the butterfly smiley.

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