Ill never understand my frog

[Joe9252]

So I'm close to giving up on my frog. i really don't know what to do it could perhaps be the most temperamental animal i have ever witnessed # 1 it seems he hates to be handled i have no clue how you guys ever take pics with your frogs in your hands its a struggle to even get mine outta the tank to clean it.... and then at times all it ever does is eat none stop and now for the past 3 weeks it has not eaten a thing and I've tired it all crickets, night crawlers fuzzies nothing he just won't eat... I honestly don't know what to do both temp and humidity have been perfect whats next.... I gave him a pedalite bath about and week ago and nothing changed as you can see he is a good size but it won't eat!!!!!!!!! And I'm not gonna lie one of the reasons i decided to get a pac was because i was told they were fun because they are always eating and growing and its fun to watch the grow....

Him and his new fuzzy best friend.....

[BlueisallIneed]

It's an animal that's in your care and responsibility. Seems like you wanted him for the wrong reasons. Not all frogs are the same or there personalities. If you want to " give up" you should find him a good home. If he doesnt continue to eat I would take him to a vet. He maybe stressed or sick. Also he maybe impacted. Has he gone to the bathroom?

[GrifTheGreat]

Joe Pacman frogs are tempermental animals. most do not like being handled. Even as their care giver they see if they see you as a threat like if you show anger and frustration your frog will pick up on your emotions and become stressed. You must remain calm.

There is a sticky post at the top of this section of threads called "Trouble in the enclosure" please read that thread and answer the questions. This will assist us I. figuring out what may be wrong with your Pacman.

[Joe9252]

i don't remember the last time he pooped but when i soaked him nothing happened

[GrifTheGreat]

i don't remember the last time he pooped but when i soaked him nothing happened

Answer these questions so we can assist you with your frog. http://www.frogforum.net/pacman-frog...enclosure.html

[Joe9252]

1. Size of enclosure-10 G
2. # of inhabitants - specifically other frogs and size differences-1Frog
3. Humidity-75%
4. Temperature 80
5. Water - type - for both misting and soaking dish- tap water with water conditioner added
6. Materials used for substrate-Coco Fiber
7. Enclosure set up i.e. plants (live or artificial), wood, bark and other materials. 2 heat pad located and one corner or the tank a glass lid to keep humidity water bowl in center and then fake plants off to the other side of the tank opposite heat pads
- How were things prepared prior to being put into the viv.
8. Main food source night crawlers and fuzzes
9. Vitamins and calcium? (how often) Calcium duster every other feeding
10. Lighting 15w purple night light over heated side of tank goes on @ 5pm turns off @6am
11. What is being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure heat pads and light bulb
12. When is the last time he/she ate 3 weeks ago
13. Have you found poop lately No
14. A pic would be helpful including frog and enclosure (any including cell phone pic is fine)
15. How old is the frog had it since AUG
16. How long have you owned him/her See above
17. Is the frog wild caught or captive bred captive bred
18. Frog food- how often and if it is diverse, what other feeders are used as treats
19. How often the frog is handled Once a month when i clean tank
20. Is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area Med traffic in my room but I'm only in my room for a few hrs a day
21. Describe enclosure maintenance (water changes, cleaning, etc) I clean its about once a month

[Sublime]

There's a few handling tips, one you can use your left or right hand as the scooping hand to get underneath one of his sides and the opposite hand to cup (place over) most of his body without covering the face preferrably. Also to mention the best way of doing this is at an angle where your hands aren't seen by the pacman.

Another way is using both of your hands and being in a position behind the pacman, placing hands on both sides of the pacmans lower middle region and then using your thumbs placed on the top of his back for control in case he gets jumpy. Also for maximum control with this method, pick him up with both hands but make sure his back legs are stretched back put of your hand so he can't use your hand as a platform to struggle and jump out.

Fill the container with warm water, dechlorinate, place a teaspoon or a drop of honey and stir it in or let dissolve, take some deep breaths, relax, and just pick him up. No big deal, your pacman will live through it.

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[Joe9252]

well just gave him a bath and nothing but i felt the right side of his stomach and there is def something there..... rubbed my finger along if for about 3 mins or so.... I'm assuming this is the issue....guess there is nothing else i can do until he poops... ill just keep giving him the bath every night

[GrifTheGreat]

well just gave him a bath and nothing but i felt the right side of his stomach and there is def something there..... rubbed my finger along if for about 3 mins or so.... I'm assuming this is the issue....guess there is nothing else i can do until he poops... ill just keep giving him the bath every night

Gently massaging the right side where the poop is will help him go while he is soaking. also if you make the water slightly below his chin at about chest level and get a cup of warm de-chlorinated water and pour it slowly over his back and directly over his vent it will help stimulate a bowel movement.

Keep us posted.

[Joe9252]

well it has been almost a month and still my pac has not eaten or pooped that the have noticed. I've soaked it many times and nothing whats the next step a few weeks ago it seemed the right side of his stomach was hard and now it seems that it has moved over to its left side. In they pic you can see the left said sticks out a little more as well.... so whats my next move here because it seems the baths are not working....

[GrifTheGreat]

At this point you may consider raising his temp to 85° and keep humidity at 80%. Higher temps can stimulate appetite as well as digestion. Raising the ambient air temp to 85° not just the warm side. You can keep him at 85° for a day or 2 while you monitor him to make sure that he doesn't react strangely to the higher temps. Shouldn't happen, but just as a precaution if you never had his temp that high before.

I'm also going to recommend a visit to a Vet that specializes in amphibians to have him checked out. If he is impacted the Vet can give you some liquid laxatives that will help him poop.

Keep us posted.

[Heatheranne]

It sounds like an intestinal loop with poop it in. I think he just needs to have a good poop. The honey bath will help.

[yevgeniycool]

yes ( DVirginiana
) you are right thats what type of condtion my frog has but i new here i dont know how to post a picture