My Pacman Frog eats DRY fish food sticks, is this heathly and can I maintain him on this diet?

[skippy]

Hello!

This is what he just started eating for me: (I tong feed him crickets and hornworms otherwise)

Nutrafin Max Predator Sticks:

The info I found on it:

Ingredients
Earthworm meal, krill, fish meal, corn meal, soy protein concentrate, squid meal, corn gluten meal, shrimp meal, salmon oil (ethoxyquin used as preservative), wheat flour, fish liver meal, dried yeast, dried kelp, dried potato products; rice bran, vitamins (cholecalciferol, biotin, d-calcium pantothenate, folic acid, inositol, niacin supplement, riboflavin-5-phosphate, calcium L-ascorbyl-2-monophosphate, vitamin A acetate, thiamine hydrochloride, vitamin B12 supplement, pyridoxine hydrochloride, vitamin E supplement, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of vitamin K activity)), DL methionine, choline chloride, minerals (manganous oxide, ferrous carbonate, zinc oxide, copper oxide, calcium iodate, cobalt carbonate, calcium carbonate), yeast extract, fructooligosaccharide, dried seaweed meal, lecithin, citric acid; Guarenteed Analysis: Crude protein Min. 45%; Crude fat Min. 10%; Crude fiber Max. 1.3%; Moisture Max. 7%; Ash Max. 9%; Calcium Min. 0.75%; Phosphorus Min. 0.75%; Copper Min. 20 ppm; Cobalt Min. 0.1 ppm; Iron Min. 350 ppm; Iodine Min. 1 ppm; Manganese Min. 10 ppm; Zinc Min. 50 ppm; Vitamin A Min. 10,000 IU/lb; Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C) Min. 350 mg/lb; Vitamin E Min. 50 IU/lb

Can I feed this to my frog? I dip one end in calcium dust after soaking the stick in water for a few minutes. He eats 3-4 of these sticks every night. They are just under an inch long.

What do you think? I don't want to feed something that's bad for him, but I find this much more palatable than crickets (on my part I mean)?

Can these replace crickets, or is the fat content too high, or does something else in the ingredients look fishy (pardon the pun) ??

I'd love to hear your thoughts!

This is him by the way:

Albino Pac Man Frog in a 10 gallon tank - update #2 - YouTube


Thanks for the help in advance!

[skippy]

Anyone?

I really want to know if id be hurting my frog on this diet in the long run or short term even?

[ramp]

Don't be stupid. Sticks are to dry. The intention of a feeder stick is to float on water and then ABSORB WATER, lots of it to sink. I wouldn't ever feed something like this to a frog. Perhaps if you soak it and form a ball from it like "Samurai" does, you could give it as a treat once in a while, if the ingrediants and vitamins are in balance, wich I'm not sure of. You'd better ask an expert on this mather.
Becides sticks as I said absorb water, wich can not be good for the frogs intestents I believe.

[GrifTheGreat]

I recommend you find a better food source for your frog. This is not a food item designed to be eaten whole. You may cause an impaction in your frogs digestive tract if the sticks are not soft enough and absorb moisture from inside the frog causing the sticks to swell. If it were crunched up and made into a soft ball then MAYBE as a treat now and then.

[skippy]

well, i do soak them. they are pretty much mush when he eats them.

im not stupid by the way.

[skippy]

I recommend you find a better food source for your frog. This is not a food item designed to be eaten whole. You may cause an impaction in your frogs digestive tract if the sticks are not soft enough and absorb moisture from inside the frog causing the sticks to swell. If it were crunched up and made into a soft ball then MAYBE as a treat now and then.

why not eaten whole? Don't fish eat them whole?

[GrifTheGreat]

why not eaten whole? Don't fish eat them whole?

Post a pic of what the sticks look like. They're made for fish not frogs so there could possibly be something in the vitamin balance that isn't properly balanced for a frog which can be detrimental to the frog over time.

[GrifTheGreat]

Don't be stupid. Sticks are to dry. The intention of a feeder stick is to float on water and then ABSORB WATER, lots of it to sink. I wouldn't ever feed something like this to a frog. Perhaps if you soak it and form a ball from it like "Samurai" does, you could give it as a treat once in a while, if the ingrediants and vitamins are in balance, wich I'm not sure of. You'd better ask an expert on this mather.
Becides sticks as I said absorb water, wich can not be good for the frogs intestents I believe.

Ramp that was uncalled for and not necessary. That is not how you answer someone's question. Not everyone here knows what can and can't be Fed to their frogs. I'm certain there is no article or literature to answer this question otherwise this person wouldn't be asking us. Try to be more helpful rather than insulting please.

[ramp]

Ramp that was uncalled for and not necessary. That is not how you answer someone's question. Not everyone here knows what can and can't be Fed to their frogs. I'm certain there is no article or literature to answer this question otherwise this person wouldn't be asking us. Try to be more helpful rather than insulting please.

Sorry Grif, wasn't meant to be insultive, what I meant was exactly what you wrote but couldn't find the rigth words. Certainly dry food can mess up the intestines of a frog and many other amphibious creatures, sometimes even fish. Ill take care to write it down better in future.

[IvoryReptiles]

Take a close look at the ingredients in the Samurai powder and you will find it is very similar to the sticks. You can use the sticks soaked to a firm softness as a food for them. I would stick (pun intended!) to Nightcrawlers as the main food source, but you can certainly supplement them this way.

As for dry foods messing up a frog's intestines (correct spelling, by the way) That is a possibility, but I wonder who is out in the wild making sure those hard bones get yanked out of every animal they eat.

Sorry, Grif knows me well enough to know that I can't stand people who act as though they know it all and have since birth. Stupid is an ugly word......uglier still when it's thrown out there in a nasty manner. If you can't find civilized words to express yourself, I suggest you not post at all.

Diets are debatable for these frogs because no research has seriously been done in the scientific community. We learn as we go. We've been breeding for 5 years and we don't know it all by a long shot!! We learn daily.