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    I got my new frog home and set him up i need some more substrate and will get some tomorrow but so far he is happy and looks nice and healthy. but i had a few questions. 1 is it a boy (Teddy) or a girl (Tammy)? 2 can anyone guess an age he/she is about 2 inches long right now and the reptile store said they had him for about 4-5 weeks. 3 when i got him home i put him in his little home but when i looked at him i saw a LITTLE WHITE BUG crawling on him. should i be worried?

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    I got my new frog home and set him up i need some more substrate and will get some tomorrow but so far he is happy and looks nice and healthy. but i had a few questions. 1 is it a boy (Teddy) or a girl (Tammy)? 2 can anyone guess an age he/she is about 2 inches long right now and the reptile store said they had him for about 4-5 weeks. 3 when i got him home i put him in his little home but when i looked at him i saw a LITTLE WHITE BUG crawling on him. should i be worried?
    You've picked a good place to come and ask questions. There are a lot of good people here who will answer your questions. You should read the care sheet post. If it is a male you will see nuptial pads on the front feet. In addition, males will eventually croak. I have a couple right now that are croaking up a storm. Take a picture of the front feet. I like the Eco earth but it is very messy and little bugs can and will lay their eggs in it. I am currently using Sphagnum Moss but there are ups and downs to all substrates. Personally I like paper towels because you really get to see the frog's colors. Anyway good luck. I'm sure someone much more helpful then myself will respond to you.

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    Im not sure on this but i thought the nuptial pads are only seen in mature frogs, being only 2 inches i dont really think he is old enough to show them. i could be wrong though. Iv been reading care sheets all day but most of the time they don't agree with each other. knowing that the people on here seem to know what they are doing i thought i would just ask. thanks for taking the time to reply

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    If the frog is a male then it should get nuptial pads when it is around 4 inches

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    1) There's no way to tell at this age whether it is male or female. It's way too small.

    2) I don't think there is really a way to tell of age unless you specifically know when it was hatched or morphed at what day (Not sure where you begin to count a frog's age...lol)

    3) Not sure what the "little white bug" could be, but I'd think about cleaning out its entire enclosure or changing the substrate to get rid of it just to make sure the bug isn't harmful.

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    Your frog is too young to specify whether it is male or female. Males do not get their nuptual pads until they reach sexual maturity which is anywhere from 8 months to a little over a year. Males will begin to call around 5.5 months of age and older. Females lack nuptual pads and do not call. Females also grow larger than males do. Age is hard to determine by the size of the frog because there are too many factors that effect their growth rate including gender.

    Looks to be a nice C. Cranwelli.

    The little white bug could be a mite. You have to be careful with mites getting in the tank as they can be harmful to your frog. Wrong one isn't bad, but if you notice more you must bathe your frog to drown any that may be on him/her and immediately clean the enclosure.


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    Hello & congrats on your new frog!

    No way to tell it's age unless you know it's egg laid date. Size is not an indicator of age because you don't know what or how often it was fed and this is a crucial growing period for the frog. Offer it food nightly, it may not always eat, but offer anyway. We use nightcrawlers as a staple at this size, it provides the best nutrients in our opinion.
    Nuptual pads will appear at around the age of 8 months or the size of 3 1/2" whichever comes first. Substrate is a matter of choice in the end. We use damp paper towels and/or coco fiber. The moss tends to be a health hazard if ingested. As for the little white bug, chances are it is a mite.......they happen quite often in the fiber and are usually harmless. If it is a springtail, it is fine....they clean waste and help avoid mold & fungus.

    The reason not all the care sheets agree is because there is more than one method of keeping the frogs. You end up using common sense & a little bit from the sheets and do what fits best. As long as you keep the animal's best interest in mind, you will be good.

    Feel free to ask any questions you have, plenty of folks here to help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by toxxxickitten View Post

    2) I don't think there is really a way to tell of age unless you specifically know when it was hatched or morphed at what day (Not sure where you begin to count a frog's age...lol)
    Toxxxickitten is right about age counting. Since we are counting "frog" age it should start after the tadpole metamorphose into a froglet. I believe that is the conventional way of age counting in frogs. Before that scientists use Gosner stage to "age" tadpoles.

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    That's a beautiful frog! About the sex, there isn't really any reliable way to sex any frog until it has reached sexual onset or is in breeding condition. As some others have mentioned, the males will develop little nuptial "pads" on his thumbs and will croak a lot when they are in breeding condition. Males' throats are also generally looser-skinned and darker than those of females. Your frog, if it is a male, will start croaking when he is about 4" in diameter. The call may just be an advertisement call at this point. Mine does that once in a while, even though he's not an adult yet. They sound kind of like ducks and are very loud (sometimes mine croaks in the middle of the night )!

    About the substrate, I like using Eco-earth. Moss (in my experience so far) gets moldy too easily and dries out quicker than Eco-earth. Plus, moss should be changed every 2 weeks or so, but Eco-earth needs to be replaced only once a month. Paper towel might work, but Horned frogs (Especially Chacoans) like to burrow a lot, so providing a substrate is probably preferable for them. DO NOT use gravel, as your frog could accidentally ingest some of it when you feed him/her, and if the pebble gets stuck in the frog's intestines, it could cause gut impaction (which can be fatal). For my Pac-Man, I put a layer of Eco-earth equal to about 2 times the frogs height when he is resting. You can put more, but then your frog will burrow down all the way under the soil and you won't be able to see him/her. I recommend getting "Horned Frogs" by Philippe de Vosjoli, which provides excellent information on caring for horned frogs. Good luck with that little guy!! They're lotts of fun.

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