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    Hi Everyone-
    I am so glad to have found this forum. I have tried posting on a couple of other forums over the last few weeks and I have taken many of the suggestions from the other forums already but so far, nothing has worked at all.
    I have a White's Tree Frog that I purchased at PetSmart close to a month ago. It is not a full grown Whites Tree Frog...or at least if it is, it would be a small one..but it is not a tiny baby either. It is probably around 3 inches but I am trying not to mess with it too much to measure her since things are not going well.
    I have it housed in a 12 X12 X18 inch exoterra cage which was recommended to me at the store but I understand now is a bit small. I don't want to change the cage at the moment though and I have heard from many people who have used this cage for a whites without an issue. I will look into upgrading her later once I get whatever is going on with her figured out first...it is bigger than her cage at the pet store was so I don't think the cage can be the primary issue anyhow.
    She has fakes plants on two of the walls, a large corner water bowl, a bowl with her food in it on the other side and a flat piece of wood that she can climb on and hide under going across her cage. I started with reptile carpet in her cage, then had frog moss about a day and now have coconut bark (ecoearth) on the base of her cage. She has a lightbulb over her cage that is on during the day and off at night and a mini-zoo-med UTH on the side of her cage. Her cage is about 82 by day (hotter right opposite the UTH) and about 73 at night. Humidity is about 60%...I am misting a couple of time a day.
    Since I got her, I don't think she has eaten at all...possibly one cricket but I think it got eaten by the other crickets. I have tried crickets, dubia roaches, superworms, meal worms, a night crawler (ewww...it was huge, died overnight and STUNK when it died), and now I have wax worms in there. I have been leaving food in there 24/7 in a deepish glass cereal bowl so the food can not get out and run around her cage.
    At first, I figured it was relocation stress and no big deal....but it has been going on for weeks now and I was under the impression that getting White's to eat was not supposed to be hard at all.
    It was suggested to me that I try soaking her in a pedialyte bath...10 parts water to 1 part unflavored pedialyte. I tried that tonight because I am getting desparate...she REALLY did not want to be in that water at all...climbed out and away as fast as she could...I put her in a few times to try to get some of the liquid on her but she seemed to hate it so and I really don't want to handle her or stress her anymore than I have to.
    Oh, once I put in the ecoearth bedding...she buried herself for several days...I was told that was a sign of an unhappy frog...now she is up on the side of her cage all the time (not near the UTH though)...I hope that is a good sign of some sort but without eating, I am assuming she will die sooner or later and it is really awful to keep checking on her and wondering when.
    Any ideas or advice about what I can do for her would be very much appreciated.
    Thanks so much!
    Alison

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    Hello Alison,

    This frogs sounds like it reached you already severely stressed. Since you say it has never eaten I think it more than likely has a lingering septicaemic infection brought on by said stress and is just slowly working its way out of this world. I'm surprised it has lasted this long. Your only course of action at this point is to take it to an amphibian-savvy vet and see if he/she can do something for the frog - I really do believe it's beyond anything you personally could do.

    Kurt will have an opinion too but I think he'll say take it to the vet right now.
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    Maybe so...but she did look alert and healthy when I got her...and she took a nice big dump the day after I got her so I am sure she was eating at PetSmart. I think she might have pooped one other time as well more recently but I am not 100% sure. She is still active and looking OK. I have been hesitant to take her to my vet for a couple of reasons but mostly because I didn't want to add to her stress. I will give him a call now and see what he has to say.

    I am afraid that you are right cause I am thinking if it was just relocation stress, she would be over it by now.

    Alison

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    Here are some pictures of my frog...I am afraid now that it is red leg...what do you all think. She feels a bit bony now to me on her back...sorry the pictures are horrible..I had a really hard time doing it by myself-lol.






    Poor thing really doesn't like the flash....she is actually not quite as red or splotchy in real life as she looks in the pictures...but maybe the pictures are just highlighting the real issue?

    Alison

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    I would just get it to the vet as soon as possible, get it checked out. If you can get a fecal sample out of her, that will help the vet out a lot. It's a possibility that this could be "red-leg", but I am not going to say for sure. Listen to her breathing, as a respiratory infection can also stop them from eating. What you don't want to hear is crackling when she breathes.

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    Red-leg or whatever it is, it's still a septicaemia.
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