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    I like my cages to functional and safe for the forg but to also be aesthetically pleasing. I've searched everywhere for ideas but have come up empty. I just got my frog today and he hashis water bowl,food, substrate, some leaves and a hide. I don't want to turn it into looking like a jungle but would rather turning almost into a piece of art that the frog is of course safe and happy with.

    I did this with My Leos tank and it looks amazing. For reference it's a 10gal tank. Any pics or ideas would be greatly appreciated.

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    Show us a pic of your Leos tank so we see what you are looking for

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramp View Post
    Show us a pic of your Leos tank so we see what you are looking for
    Here's my leo's cage:
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    Here's my leo's cage:
    That will not do for a Pacman. Frogs have a lot of special needs. especially tropical species.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    That will not do for a Pacman. Frogs have a lot of special needs. especially tropical species.
    I realize that. I currently have the appropriate substrate and everything. I've done my research on pacman frogs before I got one. My original question was, does anyone have any setups that have a great design. Pictures would be great. I have no plans to put my packman on tile with a UTH burning it. I know how to take care of it. I'm just looking for example tank designs, not to drop my pacman in my leo's cage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Th View Post
    I realize that. I currently have the appropriate substrate and everything. I've done my research on pacman frogs before I got one. My original question was, does anyone have any setups that have a great design. Pictures would be great. I have no plans to put my packman on tile with a UTH burning it. I know how to take care of it. I'm just looking for example tank designs, not to drop my pacman in my leo's cage.
    Here is a Vivarium I recently built for my adult female Cranwelli. She isn't in yet. I'm allowing it to grow.

    http://www.frogforum.net/vivarium-te...acman-viv.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    Here is a Vivarium I recently built for my adult female Cranwelli. She isn't in yet. I'm allowing it to grow.

    http://www.frogforum.net/vivarium-te...acman-viv.html
    That's amazing. I tried using live plants with the cresteds I had but it was more work than it was worth and ended up using fake plants, which they were perfectly fine with.

    Anyway, here's my current setup. It's a bit sparse. I read that they like to have a sort of enclosure as it makes them more comfortable, so I wrapped it with some blue scrapbook paper. Also, under the leaves is a log for him to go into. He seems to like going under the rock, which I made sure was secure. One the left side I have an UTH, as from what I understand they like to thermoregulate (and is away from the water).

    Please feel free to correct me if I'm doing anything wrong. Any suggestions on further designs would be more than welcome.

    Thanks for the advice so far.
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    If you haven't read the forums care article here it is. This will provide climate conditions that you must maintain. Your build should always accommodate the frogs climate needs.

    Frog Forum - Pacman and Horned Frogs - Ceratophrys - Care and Breeding


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    If you haven't read the forums care article here it is. This will provide climate conditions that you must maintain. Your build should always accommodate the frogs climate needs.

    Frog Forum - Pacman and Horned Frogs - Ceratophrys - Care and Breeding

    I apologize, but I think I missed what you were referencing in the care sheet. I just woke up, so that could be why. I just took the temp and it's in the mid-70s, which I read elsewhere was okay (I've read a number of caresheets and have been trying to follow their instructions), but I can insulate it this afternoon if that's the issue, so the tank can hold heat better. I'll stick in my hydrometer this afternoon as well, so I can keep track of the humidity, but I have been misting his cage to make sure it's humid. I really like the little guy, so don't want to do something stupid to shorten his lifespan. Again, thanks for all of your help. It's much appreciated. This is definitely one of the more newbie friendly forums I've been to.

    I've had plenty of geckos (crestie care seems to be somewhat similar), but am new to frogs, so I figured this would be an easy transition but there are some subtle differences that I wasn't aware of despite reading a bunch before getting him.

    Nice guide though. I'll read through it again at work to make sure I didn't miss any glaring errors I'm making, but I'm really not sure what they are.
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    Oh, and I plan on adding more to his cage (leaves, etc.). Amazon is just taking a bit longer with the supplies than I expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Th View Post
    Oh, and I plan on adding more to his cage (leaves, etc.). Amazon is just taking a bit longer with the supplies than I expected.
    Daytime temp should be 80° to 85°. Nighttime temp should be 75° to 79° Babies should be kept no higher than 82° during the day and hover around 78° at night. Humidity needs to be kept at 70% to 80%. 80% Is best.

    Be careful with the leaf litter. You do not want him to ingest any of it accidentally.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    Daytime temp should be 80° to 85°. Nighttime temp should be 75° to 79° Babies should be kept no higher than 82° during the day and hover around 78° at night. Humidity needs to be kept at 70% to 80%. 80% Is best.

    Be careful with the leaf litter. You do not want him to ingest any of it accidentally.
    Ok, I'll definitely be insulating it then and adding another UTH if needed. The leaves are all fake. I was told that was okay. I don't plan on using live plants.

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    Here are some pics of the Exo-Terra 60 cm x 45cm x 45 cm I use for my 2 small Fantasy's. It's heated by a spot on top and 2 small UTH 7 watt on eigther side of the viv. included are a shelter, moss to bury in, live setled plants, a shallow water dish and and natural shelter. Humidity is controled by a fogger system, temp. app. 82-86° F day, nigth 70-76° F.






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    That looks amazing.

    Here's what I have as of today. I plan on building it up and recreating it into something nicer, but I wanted to start out with something simple before I really went all-out designing and investing money. For the front view picture, it kind of gives the illusion that there's an inch or so of very wet, muddy soil, but it's just the camera playing tricks. The temperature is on the rise and will be playing with it to achieve the ideal day/night temps with a dimmer I have for the UTH.

    I'd like to add another hide for him, but I'm not sure where or what to go with. Newbie advice welcome. Again, the examples of your tanks are great.

    Top and bottom view. Critiques and suggestions welcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Th View Post
    That looks amazing.

    Here's what I have as of today. I plan on building it up and recreating it into something nicer, but I wanted to start out with something simple before I really went all-out designing and investing money. For the front view picture, it kind of gives the illusion that there's an inch or so of very wet, muddy soil, but it's just the camera playing tricks. The temperature is on the rise and will be playing with it to achieve the ideal day/night temps with a dimmer I have for the UTH.

    I'd like to add another hide for him, but I'm not sure where or what to go with. Newbie advice welcome. Again, the examples of your tanks are great.

    Top and bottom view. Critiques and suggestions welcome.
    Actually there is no need for another hide with the large plants you have. they should be sufficient.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    Actually there is no need for another hide with the large plants you have. they should be sufficient.
    Finally I'm the right tack!

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    An idea could be siliconing pebbles onto a piece of acrylic then inserting it at a slant to allow a built in pond area. Make sure to use acrylic safe silicone if you do it.
    Not sure how messy they are in the water though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFroggyDragon View Post
    An idea could be siliconing pebbles onto a piece of acrylic then inserting it at a slant to allow a built in pond area. Make sure to use acrylic safe silicone if you do it.
    Not sure how messy they are in the water though...
    I'd have to look into that a bit to make sure I do it right and safely. I do, however, have a tile mosaic that I bought for my leo to lead up to a second story I was going to build, but it turned out to be too flimsy to use as "stairs" and I wanted to wait a bit before adding another level, so he can adjust to his new setup. I could try adding the mosaic around his current water dish and see how it looks, but I'm thinking it'll look tacky.

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    Thanks for the positive comment.

    When buying silicone, get aqurium- or viiger based silicone, this is safe for your frog onced dry. It comes in black and transparent.
    The base in my terrarium is build up out of hydro balls, covered by a terrarium fleece, the space under the fleece holdsexess water so the frogs never get into a mudy , often too cold aria. I created a ramp with a 4 mm thick piece of plexi glass, app. 3 inches high and made sure water could run under it.
    After putting in the washed hydro balls, covered the whole with the fleece and then put the cocopeat and plants in. then covered the whole bottom with moss pieces. The frogs regularly burow in between the moss pieces, with only their heads showing. Also they like to hide underneath the leaves of the plants. In the back I glued in a iece of Zoomed cork, with makes it look nice and insulates the tank in the back. The sides of the vivarium have been painted with non toxic aclilic paint, wich gives the frogs a secure feeling as they easily could get stressed when all sides are open.
    The front peace with the slope was finaly planted with live java moss that is beeing kept very moist to let grow. since there always is a thin layer of water, I usualy find the there in the eaving for a good soak.
    The whole setup did not cost more than should be. and was created in 1 evening.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ramp View Post
    Thanks for the positive comment.

    When buying silicone, get aqurium- or viiger based silicone, this is safe for your frog onced dry. It comes in black and transparent.
    The base in my terrarium is build up out of hydro balls, covered by a terrarium fleece, the space under the fleece holdsexess water so the frogs never get into a mudy , often too cold aria. I created a ramp with a 4 mm thick piece of plexi glass, app. 3 inches high and made sure water could run under it.
    After putting in the washed hydro balls, covered the whole with the fleece and then put the cocopeat and plants in. then covered the whole bottom with moss pieces. The frogs regularly burow in between the moss pieces, with only their heads showing. Also they like to hide underneath the leaves of the plants. In the back I glued in a iece of Zoomed cork, with makes it look nice and insulates the tank in the back. The sides of the vivarium have been painted with non toxic aclilic paint, wich gives the frogs a secure feeling as they easily could get stressed when all sides are open.
    The front peace with the slope was finaly planted with live java moss that is beeing kept very moist to let grow. since there always is a thin layer of water, I usualy find the there in the eaving for a good soak.
    The whole setup did not cost more than should be. and was created in 1 evening.

    That's pretty amazing. If you remember (and don't mind sharing) about how much did it run you? I plan in the coming weeks to do some research/designing for his cage, but don't want to get in over my head project/price-wise. I'd probably set aside a weekend to do it.

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