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    I would like to call a truce, I'm sorry...
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    Same.

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    Hey guys! I have a question on the Metronidizole. I have come across a powdered form at the pet store that I work at in the fish section. It's made by SeaChem. Anyone know what the difference is and if it could be used on amphibians? I looked at the label and didn't see where it wasn't safe to use on them, but maybe one of you could give me some insight into this. I can get it for roughly $10 and would be readily available should I need it.

    Also, what would you guys say about using Vetericyn One-step wound and skin care that works naturally with your animal's immune system on amphibians? I have used it on myself and my kitties before and it works awesome. Just wonder if you guys think it could take the place of SSD when my frog decides to keep rubbing his nose on the glass? This stuff pretty much takes care of any of the nasties he could get from any wounds he sustains (fungal, bacterial, etc..)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarosaurus View Post
    Hey guys! I have a question on the Metronidizole. I have come across a powdered form at the pet store that I work at in the fish section. It's made by SeaChem. Anyone know what the difference is and if it could be used on amphibians? I looked at the label and didn't see where it wasn't safe to use on them, but maybe one of you could give me some insight into this. I can get it for roughly $10 and would be readily available should I need it.

    Also, what would you guys say about using
    Vetericyn One-step wound and skin care that works naturally with your animal's immune system on amphibians? I have used it on myself and my kitties before and it works awesome. Just wonder if you guys think it could take the place of SSD when my frog decides to keep rubbing his nose on the glass? This stuff pretty much takes care of any of the nasties he could get from any wounds he sustains (fungal, bacterial, etc..)
    There are different metronidizole formulas. In the fish trade, the usual form is dimetronidizole, which is more soluble in water (plain metro is not). Even though its popular in treating protozoan and bacterial infections; metro is a drug that can and has caused damage to fish when users overdose or do an incorrect (usually too long) treatment. Because of this, recommend getting metro from a vet and use with proper dosing. Do wash hands and don't breath metro in powder form; it's also identified as a carcinogen.

    IRT Vetericyn, have not used it but the website states is safe for exotics. Good luck !
    Remember to take care of the enclosure and it will take care of your frog !​

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    A debate is always a good learning experience. Take in the good, leave behind the negative and no matter which way you read through, it becomes a win-win for all . It brought up some good topics.
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    This is such a good thread.

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    Metronidizole is an antibacterial, antiprotozoal, and APPETITE STIMULANT. It is $30 per 100 mLs.


    Is this in liquid form? (mLs?) How is it given to the frog and in what dosage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonLisk View Post
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    Hi All,
    Dr. Frye sent me an email that I wanted to share with you all as to medications one should have on hand in case your frog is needing medical attention and a vet is no where to be found.
    Dr Frye is very nice and willing to assist but it is highly recommended that photos be attached to the email if your looking for assistance.
    Dr Frye can be contacted at dr.frye.vetatmilan@gmail.com

    The meds listed below can be bought from Dr Frye if you live in the U.S. Note that prices may have changed since this was sent to me. If you live outside the U.S. you can track down a local vet and purchase the items.

    Here is the email I received:

    As a first aid kit, I strongly recommend having a few drugs on hand at all times. That way when a medical problem arises, you just need to contact me, and I can steer you down the right path.

    Metronidizole is an antibacterial, antiprotozoal, and APPETITE STIMULANT. It is $30 per 100 mLs.

    Silversulfadiazene is a topical antibiotic and antifungal that promotes healing while discouraging scarring. It should be used on ALL skin lesions and costs $34 per ounce.

    Baytril is a strong systemic antibiotic that needs to be mixed carefully. It costs $24 per ounce and is mixed according to the size of the frog treated. Only a few drops are used daily.

    Panacur is a powdered dewormer. It is very safe and easy to use and costs $14 per spoonful.

    Shipping costs $11 for Priority on any order that includes one of the liquid medications. If you purchase Panacur alone, shipping costs $2. I can not ship medications outside of the United States.

    You can pay by PayPal at dr.frye.vetatmilan@gmail.com , or by calling my office at 734-439-2273 and paying via credit card over the phone.
    My hospital is not open on Wednesdays, so please take that into account.

    End of email
    I contacted Dr. Frye and I'm confused... in the med list it says that Metronidazole is an antiprotozoal medication, this site states the same thing Panacur, antiparasitic drugs, and symptoms of parasite infection but when I contacted Dr Frye recently I received replies that really bemused and upset me, particularly after I just lost sHEila....

    I wrote to Dr. Frye Dec 6th and explained the problems I was having with my frogs with the coccidiosis and prolpase. I told him he came highly recommended on FrogForum. Here was his answer Dec 8th:

    <dr.frye.vetatmilan@gmail.com> wrote:

    Do you mean cocci or coccidia?

    You can use original preparation H (without any pain killer) on prolapsed cloacas. Apply a small amount to the prolapsed tissue twice daily.

    I don't know who is giving you medical advise or even the medicine, but this seems very odd to me.

    Sincerely,
    David M. Frye, DVM

    (I wrote back to tell him who did the fecal test/perscribed the meds and that sHEila had passed and this was his reply):

    I've never heard of cocidea being treated with metronidazole. Also, frogs have never been proven to become cured of coccidia. Unless something new and exciting has come up that I have missed.

    Sorry about your euthanized frog.
    I just wrote back to him again but I really don't know what to do at this point
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    2.0.0 South American Bird Poo Frogs (Hyla marmorata): Ribbit & Rupert


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