newbie questions

[godzilladoll]

hey everyone!
I'm getting ready to enter the frog world. I was originally going to get tomato frogs so I did my research and got my vivarium ready. I have 50/50 organic soil and eco earth. a potho and another plant whose name slips my mind but was on a safe plant list, and some lucky bamboo all of which have been rinsed off and I removed as much of the original soil as possible (which was hard) - I put moss around the plants as well. I will get a water bowel when I purchase my frog and I have a UVB light if needs be (I read its optional).

yesterday when I went to the pet store they didn't have any tomato frogs but they did have pacmans. it doesn't seem like the requirements are terribly different but these pacmans look awful young - the store has them in little 1 or 2 gallon critter keepers and my tank is 20 gallons. Is it okay to put a juvenile in a large 20 gallon tank or does it really matter? And other than a plumpy cleared eye monster what else should I look for as far as purchasing a healthy frog goes?

Any tips to the trade would be much appreciated! Here is a pic of my setup I put little pond ornaments in the tank as well. I am not sure if that's okay due to the humidity in the tank. I don't want them to corrode and hurt the frog but I'm not sure if that would actually happen or if I made up that scenario (I'm a bit of a worrier)

[GrifTheGreat]

hey everyone!
I'm getting ready to enter the frog world. I was originally going to get tomato frogs so I did my research and got my vivarium ready. I have 50/50 organic soil and eco earth. a potho and another plant whose name slips my mind but was on a safe plant list, abs some lucky bamboo all of which have been rinsed off and I removed as much of the original soil as possible (which was hard) - I put moss around the plants as well. I will get a water bowel when I purchase my frog and I have a UVB light if needs be (I read its optional).

yesterday when I went to the pet store they didn't have any tomato frogs but they did have pacmans. it doesn't seem like the requirements are terribly different but these pacmans look awful young - the store has them in little 1 or 2 gallon critter keepers and my tank is 20 gallons. Is it okay to put a juvenile in a large 20 gallon tank or does it really matter? And other than a plumpy cleared eye monster what else should I look for as far as purchasing a healthy frog goes?

Any tips to the trade would be much appreciated! Here is a pic of my setup I put little pond ornaments in the tank as well. I am not sure if that's okay due to the humidity in the tank. I don't want them to corrode and hurt the frog but I'm not sure if that would actually happen or if I made up that scenario (I'm a bit of a worrier)

That tank is way too big for a young Pacman. You should keep babies in small enclosures until the reach half grown or full grown. the smaller enclosure makes them feel secure as large areas stress them out due to feeling exposed. Small enclosures also make it much easier for them to find and catch their food. Despite what a lot of people say they are not as easy to care for as you might think. they become stressed very easily and stop eating due to this. if you haven't read any Pacman care sheets I suggest that you do so.

Starting with this Frog Forum - Pacman and Horned Frogs - Ceratophrys - Care and Breeding

[godzilladoll]

Thank you! I have read care sheets, multiple care sheets however most mention temperature for juveniles but not cage requirements if i had my pick which I still do because I haven't purchased anything yet I would choose an adult. I even watched a video by a herpetologist who made a cage for a pacman that looked the same size as the ones in the store and it was a 20 long, but I know from keeping tarantulas and reptiles that juvenile animals tend to need smaller cages and so I came here for answers. Even though I am new to frogs I am not new to keeping animals and i will not buy something without researching it thoroughly first. Thank you for the care sheet I will read it.

[GrifTheGreat]

Thank you! I have read care sheets, multiple care sheets however most mention temperature for juveniles but not cage requirements if i had my pick which I still do because I haven't purchased anything yet I would choose an adult. I even watched a video by a herpetologist who made a cage for a pacman that looked the same size as the ones in the store and it was a 20 long, but I know from keeping tarantulas and reptiles that juvenile animals tend to need smaller cages and so I came here for answers. Even though I am new to frogs I am not new to keeping animals and i will not buy something without researching it thoroughly first. Thank you for the care sheet I will read it.

Even adults should be kept in no larger than a 10 gallon tank. It is possible to house them in larger setups, but some do not adjust well to the large space.

[godzilladoll]

Hmm I will keep searching but I may have to go in a different direction then. thank you.