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    Hi guys,

    I have two red eyed tree frogs, but I noticed today the one looks pale and discolored on part of his skin. I can't tell if its just color change or if it could be some kind of infection.

    Nothing in their tank has changed, and I treat the water that goes into the tank. I feed them gut loaded crickets too.

    The frog acts normal, and doesn't sleep on the ground or anything and still hunts crickets and things.

    Heres a pic of him:

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    And now to further confuse things here he is 10 min later, he's back to full color so I think its just the coloring but I wanted to ask to be sure.

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    Default Re: Is my red eyed tree frog sick?

    You probably caught him when changing colors. One of mine was a calico of brown and green one day and I immediately thought it was in trouble only to find it was fully green a few hours later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono1081 View Post
    Hi guys,

    I have two red eyed tree frogs, but I noticed today the one looks pale and discolored on part of his skin. I can't tell if its just color change or if it could be some kind of infection.

    Nothing in their tank has changed, and I treat the water that goes into the tank. I feed them gut loaded crickets too.

    The frog acts normal, and doesn't sleep on the ground or anything and still hunts crickets and things.

    Heres a pic of him:

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    And now to further confuse things here he is 10 min later, he's back to full color so I think its just the coloring but I wanted to ask to be sure.

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    I'm wondering what kind of light was he exposed to, if any?
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    Not infection, just color changing
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    Quote Originally Posted by wkcheng2 View Post
    Not infection, just color changing
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    I still think it is the result of exposure to a uvb light source or a plant light ?
    Bottom in the dark ( under a leaf ) and the top of the frog exposed to the light.
    I have seen this a few times on my RETFs ( I hang a 2.0 UVB - on a timer- and have plant lights to keep many plants in the enclosure alive and well)
    It has always occurred when a leaf was covering a portion of the frog's body.
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    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    I am not sure of the chemical processes that cause the colour change. But I have seen it happen with tree frogs with simple florescent and even incandescent lighting. I have also seen it in rain chambers where the top of the enclosure (where the light penetrates) is completely glass, so even with UVB lights (which I was not using), the uvb would not pass through the glass. The frogs skin changes colour with the level of lighting. This (and everything) is the result of natural selection. Creatures that blend in better are not eaten. If part of a leaf is covering your leaf frog, it is going to be lighter/darker in places depending on the whatever light is hitting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lukebaksavich View Post
    I am not sure of the chemical processes that cause the colour change. But I have seen it happen with tree frogs with simple florescent and even incandescent lighting. I have also seen it in rain chambers where the top of the enclosure (where the light penetrates) is completely glass, so even with UVB lights (which I was not using), the uvb would not pass through the glass. The frogs skin changes colour with the level of lighting. This (and everything) is the result of natural selection. Creatures that blend in better are not eaten. If part of a leaf is covering your leaf frog, it is going to be lighter/darker in places depending on the whatever light is hitting it.
    Makes complete sense to me !!!! Lynn
    Current Collection
    Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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