decisions pacman or whites tree frog

[matt palm]

well i have done a lot of research about pacman frogs and whites and i already have 2 american toads so i have the burrowing type already so i want something different but i like how aggresive pacmans are and id say ive done more research about whites but not much more but i need help making a decision

[Sanimal]

In your case, I would get a whites tree frog because you said that you wanted something different, and have done more research on them. Also, though whites tree frogs aren't aggressive like pacman frogs, they still are fun to watch while feeding. Hope this helps!

[InfinitysDaughter]

They are both wonderful frogs in my opinion. Some say Whites are more active but I know many people in the pac man forum that say there pacs are spastic little balls of energy while some here have said there Whites are bumps that sit and do nothing. My own experience with pacs is limited and not particularly good. But my pac was extremely stress prone and refused to eat. I ended up exchanging him for my Whites more for his benefit then mine (he was much less stressed at the petstore, suprisingly o0 ). My Azy (whites) on the other hand has been a bundle of joy and so much fun. She is entertaining to watch hunt but she also loves to sit on my shoulder and take naps while I read or play on the computer.

Whites have a thicker skin, so to speak, that makes them less susceptible to oils in human skin so they can be handled with fewer health risks then most any other frog (including pacs). Now, its up to the specific from if they WANT to be handled (obviously Azy does since she sleeps on me but many say theres do not appreciate being handled) but thats, again, part of the personality quirks.

If your wanting something "different" from a burrower then your better bet is the Whites. Give them plenty of "up" space and they'll entertain you for hours on end.

[matt palm]

i actually got 2 whites yesterday and they seem to blend in very well ive only seen one of them since i put them in.

[InfinitysDaughter]

They'll do that at first. After a little while, when they settle in, dinner time will be fun to watch. :3

[matt palm]

yeah they seem to come at night much more i think i have a to warm of a bulb its at about 82 degrees and 50% humidity

[InfinitysDaughter]

Na. Your probably fine. My Azy dosn't come out during the day unless I make her. She'll even start to go back to sleep if I have to turn on a light for any reason after its "lights out" in there corner. I think they just prefer to be nocturnal. You might bring the humidity up a tad. I keep mine between 60 and 90%.

[matt palm]

Yeah i spray 3 times a day and its barely at 50

[InfinitysDaughter]

Do you have a water bowl or any other water source? You might think about investing in a mister if you cant seem to get the humidity up.

[matt palm]

There is two bowls in there

[lukebaksavich]

There is two bowls in there

What substrate are you using? Also what do you have for drainage? I usually use false-bottoms in terrariums, and include sphagnum in the substrate. That, in conjunction with placing plastic across part of the top of the terrarium, will help you boost the humidity levels to more desirable levels. In general, Litoria caerulea is pretty robust, resilient species, so in that regard you will probably be fine either way. I would make an effort to boost the humidity either way, as it will make the terrarium less hectic to maintain (less misting required, etc.). These species are nocturnal, so you should not be seeing much activity with the lights on (in fact, active tree frogs during the day are more than likely indicative of a problem). I hope you enjoy your frogs!

Luke
Junglemakers

[matt palm]

Yeah i got some hydroballs down then some screen on top then eco earth but i noticed with my new bulb it raised the humidity to about 60%