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    Do you mean, cleaning of the new tank? if so, I used a very diluted solution of bleach and water (like 1/2 cap bleach in a gallon of water). Rinse, Rinse, Rinse, let air dry several days..
    I bought the drift wood for aquariums for my tank. Some suggest you bake it a low temps, though I never did that. I just rinsed well and let air dry.
    I have plants in the substrate and in pots. The thing with live plants is you need to rinse very well (including the roots) to get the fertilizer off the plant and vermiculite out of the soil. It's easier to plant in a clean pot with coco fiber. Don't put in your vivarium for maybe a couple weeks to ensure the fertilizer and pesticides are out.
    For heating I use both a ceramich heat emitter (on very cold nights) and a UTH (under tank heater) stuck to the side of the tank on the outside. My frog hates any kind of light at night, so I don't use the purple or red lights at night.
    For the glass bowl feeding method, you only need a small glass bowls (like 2 inches high at most and 2 inch diameter), amazingly the crickets don't know how to get out, and if they do, they always end up back in the bowl. This is a great way to monitor your frog's food intake and ensure he won't eat any substrate. I personally feed my frog with my fingers, for me it's easier...
    As far as afording a larger enclosure. I have seen some really good deals in the paper and craigslist on used aquariums. Just browse the classifieds occasionally and see if anything shows up!
    Hope this helps, and if any others have better/additional advise, please chime in!
    Hope this helps answer yoru questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolisnide View Post
    Do you mean, cleaning of the new tank? if so, I used a very diluted solution of bleach and water (like 1/2 cap bleach in a gallon of water). Rinse, Rinse, Rinse, let air dry several days..
    I bought the drift wood for aquariums for my tank. Some suggest you bake it a low temps, though I never did that. I just rinsed well and let air dry.
    I have plants in the substrate and in pots. The thing with live plants is you need to rinse very well (including the roots) to get the fertilizer off the plant and vermiculite out of the soil. It's easier to plant in a clean pot with coco fiber. Don't put in your vivarium for maybe a couple weeks to ensure the fertilizer and pesticides are out.
    For heating I use both a ceramich heat emitter (on very cold nights) and a UTH (under tank heater) stuck to the side of the tank on the outside. My frog hates any kind of light at night, so I don't use the purple or red lights at night.
    For the glass bowl feeding method, you only need a small glass bowls (like 2 inches high at most and 2 inch diameter), amazingly the crickets don't know how to get out, and if they do, they always end up back in the bowl. This is a great way to monitor your frog's food intake and ensure he won't eat any substrate. I personally feed my frog with my fingers, for me it's easier...
    As far as afording a larger enclosure. I have seen some really good deals in the paper and craigslist on used aquariums. Just browse the classifieds occasionally and see if anything shows up!
    Hope this helps, and if any others have better/additional advise, please chime in!
    Hope this helps answer yoru questions.
    Thanks for that helpful reply!
    for cleaning, I actually meant after the frog is already in. how often should I take everything out and wash it?
    Do I have to use live plants, or can I do fake?
    The problem isn't the enclosure's price, it's the size. We have no room for a 20 gallon tank for him! we'll see what we can do, but I'm afraid 10 gallons will be the best we can do right now.

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    Oh, sorry!
    Well, you should spot clean daily (pick up any poop you see right away with a tissue). And to be honest, the only time I've ever taken apart my vivarium was in January because on of my white's died suddenly. I cleaned everything as a precation. but, my vivarium is kind of it's own eco system. So I actually do not want to mess up the natural organisms that have developed in the enclosure. I have several live plants and worms in my substrate, and as long as there is no foul odor, I have not needed to do a full cleaning, except that one time.
    Live plants are not necessary, but I've found that it is necessary for the natural ecosystem. they also help maintain humidity. If you use only fake plants, you may need to do a complete cleaning every six months? But I don't know for sure. Others will have to step in on that issue.
    And if you can only get a 10 gallon, get a verticle one so your frog can spend some time climbing... But you'd be surprised, a 20 gallon isn't that much bigger and can easily fit on a dresser or table when standing verticly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolisnide View Post
    Oh, sorry!
    Well, you should spot clean daily (pick up any poop you see right away with a tissue). And to be honest, the only time I've ever taken apart my vivarium was in January because on of my white's died suddenly. I cleaned everything as a precation. but, my vivarium is kind of it's own eco system. So I actually do not want to mess up the natural organisms that have developed in the enclosure. I have several live plants and worms in my substrate, and as long as there is no foul odor, I have not needed to do a full cleaning, except that one time.
    Live plants are not necessary, but I've found that it is necessary for the natural ecosystem. they also help maintain humidity. If you use only fake plants, you may need to do a complete cleaning every six months? But I don't know for sure. Others will have to step in on that issue.
    And if you can only get a 10 gallon, get a verticle one so your frog can spend some time climbing... But you'd be surprised, a 20 gallon isn't that much bigger and can easily fit on a dresser or table when standing verticly.
    That's true...is there a good one on petsmart.com that you would recommend?

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    What's the rule of thumb for frogs? Is it one per 10 gallons?

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    I believe 10 gallons per frog is the 'rule', but white's get big and (in my opinion) need lots of climbing space, and enough room to fully hop around...

    This would be ideal (this is what I have), and correction from previous post, it's actually 29 gallons:
    Zoo Med Naturalistic Terrarium- 18x18x24 - Reptile - Sale - PetSmart
    This may be fine (it's 11 gallons):
    Zoo Med Naturalistic Terrarium- 12x12x18 - Reptile - Sale - PetSmart

    The exo-terra's are great because they open from the front very easily. You could turn a 10 gallon fish tank (you can find those pretty easily for pretty inexpensive) on it's side for verticle space. I believe that size would be 12x10x24 high..., but I'm going to stand my ground and NOT reccomend anything smaller than the 18x18x24, even for one white's... some may disagree with me.
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    Do they prefer to be in groups? if someone had the 29, could they have 2?

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