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    Kurt
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    Not necessarily. Any one can dump whatever into a river up-stream. So, basically a river may contain any number of contaminants. Dechlorinated tap is fine and its what I use.

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    what about bottled water? it seems pretty clean to me. maybe not though. im just trying to see what i can use around the house before getting tablets. what about drinking water?

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    Kurt
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    Bottled water is generally tap water. Drinking water? Are you refering to spring water? If so, thats fine.

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    Where could you find a cheap ro or di water system? Deionizer(di?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deku View Post
    Where could you find a cheap ro or di water system? Deionizer(di?)
    Aqua-Pure has some small systems that would probably be ok because I doubt that they are as efficient with a tiny membrane as some of the large systems like I use. This is a good thing because they won't get all the stuff out of the water.

    D.I. water: I have several D.I. water systems and as John pointed out they have significant drawbacks if not installed correctly. An example of one of mine is as follows.

    My feed water is ran through 2 GAC (granular activated carbon) tanks.
    It is then fed to my 300g storage tank with an Osmonics 23G R/O system.
    It is pulled by distribution pumps from the storage tank and pushed through 5 Type II mixed bed D.I. resin tanks. These tanks have both anions (+ charged ions) and cations (- charged ions) and are essentially an all in one tank.
    From there it goes through a U.V. sterilizer to irradiate bacteria. U.V. does not kill bacteria, it makes it unable to reproduce.
    Lastly it goes through two .02 micron bacteria filters to filter out the bacteria fragments and endotoxins released by the bacteria destroyed by the R/O membranes or lucky ones that survived and were irradiated by the U.V. sterilizer.
    Then if flows through a closed loop to the points of distribution (faucets).
    Then back to the storage tank to repeat the process.
    This sytem takes up the space of an average garage and costs about $100,000.00 to install.
    The water produced has a resistivity of 18.2 megohms-cm. This is absolutely pure water which is referred to as Type 1 lab water or reagent quality water or Ultra Pure and is useless for anything but research purposes, the semi-conductor industry or maybe lab sterilizer final rinse cycles.

    There is the crash course in D.I. water. You don't want or need it.
    What you really want is a crappy or cheap R/O system that filters out a lot but not all of the contaminates.
    Or just treat tap water!
    Last edited by Paul Rust; May 28th, 2010 at 11:25 PM.

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    @ Paul:Just read that it made my head spin @_@ its too much info to take down on one sitting. xD But I will also try to learn D.I. and R.O. So wh at is a good "crappy" r.o. system? I just want the "best" water for my frogs. I saw a bottle of "fiji mineral water" its expensive but I was wondering if my frogs would like that too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deku View Post
    @ Paul:Just read that it made my head spin @_@ its too much info to take down on one sitting. xD But I will also try to learn D.I. and R.O. So wh at is a good "crappy" r.o. system? I just want the "best" water for my frogs. I saw a bottle of "fiji mineral water" its expensive but I was wondering if my frogs would like that too.
    The best water for most people is dechlorinated tap water or water from a well.

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    Unless an amphibian keeper has a large room/building and many critters it is unnecessary to consider RO water. Zoo, pet shops and breeders mostly do this. Listen to Paul, de-clor water for swimming/sitting/mating.... and distilled in a mister is all that is needed. K.I.S.S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tropicok View Post
    K.I.S.S.
    Yes, that says it all.

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    I collect rainwater and have always done – but now that you’re discussing distilled water and purified water I wonder if rainwater is okay?


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    I would use Danish rain water.
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    Default Re: Water: Distilled vs purified vs everything else

    It is true that many zoos use RO water, however you still need to add a certain mix of salts and minerals to the water. The same goes for using distilled water. I understand that using plain RO or distilled water should not be used in frog habitats. If you really want to give your frog a treat, you can use Perrier (only kidding) .
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    What product out in stores would be best to use to remove the chlorine in tap water???

    how about this?
    Wardley Corp Essentials Chlorine Out 4 Ounces - 00938

    Or maybe this method??
    How to make your own Dechlor for your Aquarium | eHow.com
    Is that safe, or just BS?

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    Default Re: Water: Distilled vs purified vs everything else

    Quote Originally Posted by eufa1313 View Post
    What product out in stores would be best to use to remove the chlorine in tap water???
    Any of the products sold for making tap water safe for aquariums will be fine - they are all nearly identical.

    Quote Originally Posted by eufa1313 View Post
    Or maybe this method??
    How to make your own Dechlor for your Aquarium | eHow.com
    Is that safe, or just BS?
    This only takes care of dissolved chlorine in the absence of ammonia. It does not work well on chloramines and it doesn't do anything about metals in the water, like copper.
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    eufa1313
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    Ook, I just went to walmart and purchased Tetra, Aquasafe

    It reads, 1 teaspoon per 10 gallons, treated....
    I have a 1 gallon sprayer sooo how much does will it take to work, 2 drops, 3 drops, 1 drop, I'm horrible @ math, lol

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    I just give it a squirt. Personally, I don't spray tap water as it contains minerals that will build up on your glass. I use it in the water bowls, but not in the misters. Use distilled water for misting, tap for soaking.

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    eufa1313
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    Noted.... thanks for the advice..

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    Kurt
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    You're welcome.

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    The problem is the frogs sit in their water bowl which is filled with tap water then during the night they leave foot prints all over the glass. I tell them to stop but they don't listen.

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    Default Re: Water: Distilled vs purified vs everything else

    I have two frogs, 1 green, 1 grey, in the same enclosure
    Neither one seem to use the water bowl that's supplied for them...
    they enteract great together, I'm not even sure if it suggested that they are housed together, but they sleep together on the glass next to the uth that's on the side wall,
    I plan on getting 1 more of each (2green/2grey)
    In the same enclosure... is that ok? Or will they fight
    I know that its not in the right section but I was talking about the water orginally, lol

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