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    Hi! This is my first post here. I just got a pacman frog this week and I had a couple questions. I have read so much conflicting information on pacman frogs and how much babies are supposed to eat and how often. I have no idea if I'm over feeding him/her. The first 24 hours I had him he at 12 crickets!! He did look quite skinny when I got him but he sure doesn't anymore lol. So far today he's about about 5 total. these are the tiny crickets by the way. I was told by the pet store I should be feeding about 5 twice a day. That seems like a lot.

    Also, right now I have a daylight bulb on the warm side of the tank. I've been keeping it on all day. Is that okay or should he be getting less extreme light like that? It is florescent but not a UVB.

    One last question: How fast do these guys grow? He's about an inch long, maybe less. I'm thinking he might be getting ready to shed his skin though because he ate A LOT these past couple days!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HerpDerp View Post
    Hi! This is my first post here. I just got a pacman frog this week and I had a couple questions. I have read so much conflicting information on pacman frogs and how much babies are supposed to eat and how often. I have no idea if I'm over feeding him/her. The first 24 hours I had him he at 12 crickets!! He did look quite skinny when I got him but he sure doesn't anymore lol. So far today he's about about 5 total. these are the tiny crickets by the way. I was told by the pet store I should be feeding about 5 twice a day. That seems like a lot.

    Also, right now I have a daylight bulb on the warm side of the tank. I've been keeping it on all day. Is that okay or should he be getting less extreme light like that? It is florescent but not a UVB.

    One last question: How fast do these guys grow? He's about an inch long, maybe less. I'm thinking he might be getting ready to shed his skin though because he ate A LOT these past couple days!
    They should be fed. Everyday, but not twice a day. 5 crickets per night is fine. You can also just start feeding him however much he. Will eat in 15 minutes, but 5. Per night is a good start. You should give him a varied diet so crickets/chuncks of nightcrawler. Occationally offer him waxworms/mealworms, but only one or 2 per week. Silkworms are an excellent feeder for frogs right up with the nightcrawlers and earthworms. Be sure to dust his food with a multivitamin once a week and with a calcium supplement that contains Vitamin D3 every other feeding.

    It is. Ok to use a heat light. Fluorescents are usually too bright and do not release. Much heat. You should use incandescent bulbs combined with a. Lamp that has a dimmer switch so you can control how much light and heat is produced by the bulb. Fluorescents cannot be dimmed without a special dimmer. You should place a UTH(Under Tank Heater) on the warm side of the tank(on the actual side or back of the tank not the bottom). This will aid you in maintaining correct temps. Babies should be kept at 80 to 82 during the day and 75 to 79 at night, but hover around 78. Humidity should be maintained at 80%. It is fine if you remain in the 70 to 80% range though.

    Substrate should be moist or heavily damp not muddy. Make sure that all water you use to exspand his substrate/use in his water dish/ and mist with is de-chlorinated water or natural spring water.

    Any further questions just ask. There are several experianced keepers and breeders here to help.

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    PS) Read this http://www.frogforum.net/content/pac...-breeding-170/
    A lot of good info in there for you.


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    They grow pretty fast so you will easily see them basically grow in size right before your eyes. Especially when they go through a growth spurt. During these times. It very important that they receive as much nutrition as possible.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    They should be fed. Everyday, but not twice a day. 5 crickets per night is fine. You can also just start feeding him however much he. Will eat in 15 minutes, but 5. Per night is a good start. You should give him a varied diet so crickets/chuncks of nightcrawler. Occationally offer him waxworms/mealworms, but only one or 2 per week. Silkworms are an excellent feeder for frogs right up with the nightcrawlers and earthworms. Be sure to dust his food with a multivitamin once a week and with a calcium supplement that contains Vitamin D3 every other feeding.

    It is. Ok to use a heat light. Fluorescents are usually too bright and do not release. Much heat. You should use incandescent bulbs combined with a. Lamp that has a dimmer switch so you can control how much light and heat is produced by the bulb. Fluorescents cannot be dimmed without a special dimmer. You should place a UTH(Under Tank Heater) on the warm side of the tank(on the actual side or back of the tank not the bottom). This will aid you in maintaining correct temps. Babies should be kept at 80 to 82 during the day and 75 to 79 at night, but hover around 78. Humidity should be maintained at 80%. It is fine if you remain in the 70 to 80% range though.

    Substrate should be moist or heavily damp not muddy. Make sure that all water you use to exspand his substrate/use in his water dish/ and mist with is de-chlorinated water or natural spring water.

    Any further questions just ask. There are several experianced keepers and breeders here to help.

    Welcome to Frog Forum

    PS) Read this Frog Forum - Pacman and Horned Frogs - Ceratophrys - Care and Breeding
    A lot of good info in there for you.
    I definitely think I'll reduce the food a bit. He was just so skinny when I brought him home that I figured he probably could use the extra meals! I don't think I could find silkworms around here but earthworms sound like a good idea. I gut load the crickets with flucker farms cricket quencher and the flucker farms calcium fortified sawdust looking stuff (forgot what they call it!). Should I still dust the crickets too?

    The florescent light gives off pretty much no substantial heat. I'm using an UTH for warmth. However, I did put it on the bottom (just following directions on the package!). It only covers one corner, so will it be alright? I'm not sure I can pry it off the bottom and stick it on the side :/. The temp and humidity are staying in a really good range. I actually need to back off on the misting because the humidity gets as high at 90% sometimes. I have one live plant in there (not sure of the species, I got it at petco) and plan on putting another in there. I forget what kind, I can look later and post. I really want to go for a really nice planted look so he feels secure and it looks really nice.

    And I've been using repti-safe to dechlorinate (it has vitamins in it too!) and sometimes spring water.

    Thanks so much for the helpful info!

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    Yep, you should still dust with calcium/vita D3 amphibian powder every other feeding. I'd recommend a amphibian multivitamin powder dusting one day a week, not the same day as the calcium to keep him healthy and strong .

    Very gently and slowly remove the UTH heater and place it on a side wall on the warm side of the tank, opposite the water bowl. Pac's burrow and can burn themselves.

    Congrats on your new frog! I love my pacs !
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    Definetly place the UTH on the side like Heather and I suggested. Remove it as carefully as you can and try not to bend it. They can be damaged. Very easily.


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    Hello and welcome!

    You came to the right place... You'll be meeting a lot of good people here who are willing to answer all your questions about the basics on how to raise your frog. = )

    Looking forward to see some photos of your pacman.

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    @Grif: How important is D3 to the frog's diet?

    I don't have any supplements containing D3 for my frogs but I do give them reptivite as a single dose in their weekly diet as advised and they do get exposed to the sun every morning because I keep all of my frogs in our terrace.

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    So I managed to move the heater to where it should be plus I added a couple more real plants as well as a couple fake ones. I think it's shaping up pretty nicely. Hoping to get a nice background at some point. Just haven't decided what I want it to look like yet. So he was sold as an Ornate Horned frog at PetSmart but I've heard that most pet stores sell them as that but they're really Cranwell Horned Frogs. Maybe someone here can give me some sort of clue which one he is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny888 View Post
    @Grif: How important is D3 to the frog's diet?

    I don't have any supplements containing D3 for my frogs but I do give them reptivite as a single dose in their weekly diet as advised and they do get exposed to the sun every morning because I keep all of my frogs in our terrace.
    Johnny Vitamin. D3 I what helps the body metabolize the calcium into their bones. It is important that they get D3 atleast once a week depending upon age. Older Pacs and frogs aren't growing as much so they don't need as much babies can be given it every other feeding or every 3rd feeding. Your frogs must have gotten enough so far by other means. UVB lights help the body produce Vitamin D3 naturally like sunlight does. So its farely important since UVB can be bad if exposed too much to it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HerpDerp View Post
    So I managed to move the heater to where it should be plus I added a couple more real plants as well as a couple fake ones. I think it's shaping up pretty nicely. Hoping to get a nice background at some point. Just haven't decided what I want it to look like yet. So he was sold as an Ornate Horned frog at PetSmart but I've heard that most pet stores sell them as that but they're really Cranwell Horned Frogs. Maybe someone here can give me some sort of clue which one he is?
    Post a good pic of his/her back.


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    I'll work on getting a good pic of his back later today. I also have a pretty good pic of the terrarium after I got all the plants in it. But right now I have a pretty important question. So I moved the heater to the side of the tank and the temperature dropped drastically. It was only 70 degrees when I got up this morning. So the heat is just not transferring very well at all now. When I feel the back of it it feels warm but not like hot or anything. I'm not sure how these things work because I've never used one. I put an incandescent bulb in the light to generate some more heat today but I would really like a better alternative to that. Do you think the heater got damaged when I transferred it from under the tank to the side or is it just not working as effectively due to heat loss from the back? Sorry if I'm rambling a bit. I'm just worried that poor little Hypnotoad is going to get too chilly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HerpDerp View Post
    I'll work on getting a good pic of his back later today. I also have a pretty good pic of the terrarium after I got all the plants in it. But right now I have a pretty important question. So I moved the heater to the side of the tank and the temperature dropped drastically. It was only 70 degrees when I got up this morning. So the heat is just not transferring very well at all now. When I feel the back of it it feels warm but not like hot or anything. I'm not sure how these things work because I've never used one. I put an incandescent bulb in the light to generate some more heat today but I would really like a better alternative to that. Do you think the heater got damaged when I transferred it from under the tank to the side or is it just not working as effectively due to heat loss from the back? Sorry if I'm rambling a bit. I'm just worried that poor little Hypnotoad is going to get too chilly!
    They don't get quite as hot as people think they do. A lot of them are designed to prevent burning of your pets. This is the safest way to place it on your tank. You can buy a second UTH and place it on the same side as the other and have 2 of them running to assist with the heat Like Heatheranne does. Sometimes it is best to use an incandescent bulb though if you cannot achieve the correct temp.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    They don't get quite as hot as people think they do. A lot of them are designed to prevent burning of your pets. This is the safest way to place it on your tank. You can buy a second UTH and place it on the same side as the other and have 2 of them running to assist with the heat Like Heatheranne does. Sometimes it is best to use an incandescent bulb though if you cannot achieve the correct temp.
    The incandescent bulb seems to be helping a bit. The tank is almost up to 80 degrees now. He can't be too cold though because he's not even on the warm side of the tank right now. Thanks so much for the replies. You've been very helpful! I'll be sure to post that pic once he decides to show himself (he's totally buried right now).

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    Quote Originally Posted by HerpDerp View Post
    The incandescent bulb seems to be helping a bit. The tank is almost up to 80 degrees now. He can't be too cold though because he's not even on the warm side of the tank right now. Thanks so much for the replies. You've been very helpful! I'll be sure to post that pic once he decides to show himself (he's totally buried right now).
    You're welcome.

    I'm looking forward to letting you know exactly what species you have.


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    Good luck with ur new Pac.

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