Possibly urgent? Baby isn't eating and hes starting to worry me....

[InfinitysDaughter]

Baby hasn't eaten since Monday and I'm starting to get a little bit worried. I've been digging him up (as gently as possible) each night since he came home to check his eyes to be sure they dont swell up again but it seems like all he does is wait till I've walked away and then goes back to the same spot and digs down until hes almost completely covered again without even glancing at the crickets. I've tried holding the crickets in front of his face with tongs but he just squeezes his eyes closed until I take it away.

Tonight when I checked him his belly looked like it had swelled up and the skin under his mouth is loose (it looks like he has double chins). Normally I'd think I was over feeding him and he was getting fat but, like I said, he hasn't touched his crickets.



Currently hes in a large critter keeper with a UTH on one of the shorter sides. He has about an inch and a half to 2 inches of "forest floor" substrate (I think thats ground coconut fiber) with a water bowl (which he's never used unless I put him in it) and a half hollowed log. The temps are the normal low 80's in the day and high 70's at night. I mist it several times a day (roughly morning, noon, and night) and his keeper is tucked in a corner so that 3 sides are blocked from the rest of the room.

Is there something I'm doing wrong? I know hes probably a bit stressed because I wont totally leave him alone but the threat of the infection coming back was just too serious. But would stress alone cause these symptoms?

(sorry I dont have any pictures. I dont have a way to take any at the moment)

[GrifTheGreat]

Baby hasn't eaten since Monday and I'm starting to get a little bit worried. I've been digging him up (as gently as possible) each night since he came home to check his eyes to be sure they dont swell up again but it seems like all he does is wait till I've walked away and then goes back to the same spot and digs down until hes almost completely covered again without even glancing at the crickets. I've tried holding the crickets in front of his face with tongs but he just squeezes his eyes closed until I take it away.

Tonight when I checked him his belly looked like it had swelled up and the skin under his mouth is loose (it looks like he has double chins). Normally I'd think I was over feeding him and he was getting fat but, like I said, he hasn't touched his crickets.



Currently hes in a large critter keeper with a UTH on one of the shorter sides. He has about an inch and a half to 2 inches of "forest floor" substrate (I think thats ground coconut fiber) with a water bowl (which he's never used unless I put him in it) and a half hollowed log. The temps are the normal low 80's in the day and high 70's at night. I mist it several times a day (roughly morning, noon, and night) and his keeper is tucked in a corner so that 3 sides are blocked from the rest of the room.

Is there something I'm doing wrong? I know hes probably a bit stressed because I wont totally leave him alone but the threat of the infection coming back was just too serious. But would stress alone cause these symptoms?

(sorry I dont have any pictures. I dont have a way to take any at the moment)

Stress most definetly causes these symptoms. Pacmans will stop eating if they are stressed. How long exactly has it been since he has eaten? If he didn't eat while he was being treated for his infection and hasn't since you've brought him home that is too long. You can try a Pedialyte bath. Make sure you buy UNFLAVORED Pedialyte. make a bath that is a 10 to 1 ratio. So 10oz of water 1oz of Pedialyte. Make sure the bath is luke warm and no deeper than up to his chin.

This bath will give him much needed nutrients/vitamins/and electrolytes. Soak him for 10 to 15 minutes. The bloated look is probably due to him being well hydrated from soaking up moisture from the moist soil.

Keep me posted.

[InfinitysDaughter]

He did eat while being treated. His infection actually dissipated before I even left work the night I took him back. He banged his head against the side of the tank and popped the bubble over his eye and all the infection drained out and he looked great. But Lori wouldn't let me take him home till he ate for her. Took him almost a week but he finally ate 2 days in a row (only a couple crickets, though) so she said she thought he was good to come home. He ate about 6 baby crickets monday but hasn't eaten since then.

I talked to Lori and the other girls tonight at work and they said its possible he may have eaten a little too much dirt with the crickets and gotten constipated. They told me to try a warm bath to try and get things moving along. Hes currently soaking in his quarantine tank while I type this. X3 I'm gona leave him soak for a bit (there is a uth on the side of the tank to keep the water warm but not hot) and take him out in about 15 or 20 minutes. When I put him in there when I noticed the infection it took him about that long to go so I'll give him some time.

They agreed that if he dosn't eat after several warm baths to try the Pedialyte but finding unflavored in my area is gona be hard. Most places only carry orange and grape. If I cant find that is there anything else you could suggest?


I never thought when I bought Baby that he would be so much....well, trouble isn't the right word I dont think. Just more maintenance then my tree girls have been, I guess. But every time I look at that cute little face I just melt and I'm like "I'll do anything to make sure your ok!" *snuggle smush*


[edit] He pooped! Hes back in his normal tank now and I'll put a few crickets in before I head to bed and see if he eats over night. And the bloated-ness probably was the moisture cuse hes even more bloated looking now after his soak. X3 But he looks a little better now so I'll give him another warm soak tomorrow. Its a little step but I'm happy he does look a bit better. ^w^

[GrifTheGreat]

He did eat while being treated. His infection actually dissipated before I even left work the night I took him back. He banged his head against the side of the tank and popped the bubble over his eye and all the infection drained out and he looked great. But Lori wouldn't let me take him home till he ate for her. Took him almost a week but he finally ate 2 days in a row (only a couple crickets, though) so she said she thought he was good to come home. He ate about 6 baby crickets monday but hasn't eaten since then.

I talked to Lori and the other girls tonight at work and they said its possible he may have eaten a little too much dirt with the crickets and gotten constipated. They told me to try a warm bath to try and get things moving along. Hes currently soaking in his quarantine tank while I type this. X3 I'm gona leave him soak for a bit (there is a uth on the side of the tank to keep the water warm but not hot) and take him out in about 15 or 20 minutes. When I put him in there when I noticed the infection it took him about that long to go so I'll give him some time.

They agreed that if he dosn't eat after several warm baths to try the Pedialyte but finding unflavored in my area is gona be hard. Most places only carry orange and grape. If I cant find that is there anything else you could suggest?


I never thought when I bought Baby that he would be so much....well, trouble isn't the right word I dont think. Just more maintenance then my tree girls have been, I guess. But every time I look at that cute little face I just melt and I'm like "I'll do anything to make sure your ok!" *snuggle smush*


[edit] He pooped! Hes back in his normal tank now and I'll put a few crickets in before I head to bed and see if he eats over night. And the bloated-ness probably was the moisture cuse hes even more bloated looking now after his soak. X3 But he looks a little better now so I'll give him another warm soak tomorrow. Its a little step but I'm happy he does look a bit better. ^w^

The only other thing you can do to spark a feeding responce is to keep his temp at 82 for a couple days. Warmer temps can help because their body uses heat to digest and metabolize their food.

Pacman frogs are not as easy to care for as everyone let's on. If that were the case their wouldn't be several hundred threads on here with people having trouble with getting them to eat or them being sick. Not to mention having trouble maintaining the correct environment for them. They are extremely sensitive to any change in their environment whether it be climate change or just an object that has changed and all of these thing can stressyour frog and cause him to stop eating.

[InfinitysDaughter]

Well gave Baby an good warm bath Saturday night and a warm Pedialite spiked bath Sunday night and today he finally ate! He's dug himself down in this area where water is for some reason collecting but when I held some crickets in front of him with tongs and lashed right out and took them. He didn't seem interested when they walked by on there own, though. Seems odd but he ate about 3 or 4 from the tongs so I'm happy hes not starving.

I had some of the pedialte water left over and kept it in a small container (just in case I needed to do it again soon) and I put some of that in his water dish (if he'll bother to use it since hes soaking in the collecting water where hes dug down). I'll throw that out when I get home from work tonight and put regular declorinated water in it.


He seems to be doing really well now and I'm gona leave him completely alone for the next several days (sept to refresh his crickets if he, hopefully, eats them all) so he can finally settle into his new home unmolested. I just hope I dont have to go threw this again when he outgrows the critter keeper and I move him to his permanent tank. I'm just so not use to a frog that isn't a major pig. Helly and Percy will eat there weight in crickets every day if I let them. @.@


Thanks so much again Grif! Your awesome! <3

[GrifTheGreat]

Well gave Baby an good warm bath Saturday night and a warm Pedialite spiked bath Sunday night and today he finally ate! He's dug himself down in this area where water is for some reason collecting but when I held some crickets in front of him with tongs and lashed right out and took them. He didn't seem interested when they walked by on there own, though. Seems odd but he ate about 3 or 4 from the tongs so I'm happy hes not starving.

I had some of the pedialte water left over and kept it in a small container (just in case I needed to do it again soon) and I put some of that in his water dish (if he'll bother to use it since hes soaking in the collecting water where hes dug down). I'll throw that out when I get home from work tonight and put regular declorinated water in it.


He seems to be doing really well now and I'm gona leave him completely alone for the next several days (sept to refresh his crickets if he, hopefully, eats them all) so he can finally settle into his new home unmolested. I just hope I dont have to go threw this again when he outgrows the critter keeper and I move him to his permanent tank. I'm just so not use to a frog that isn't a major pig. Helly and Percy will eat there weight in crickets every day if I let them. @.@


Thanks so much again Grif! Your awesome! <3

If your frog will eat from tongs than that is actually very fortunate. Most have to be taught to do this. I would continue to feed your Pac from the tongs. Good job. Keep up the good work.

Keep me posted. You can feed your baby every night since at this stage of life they need a lot of food and nutrition. Don't forget to dust his/her food.