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[Kurt]

I would love some Atelopus.

Good luck, considering most of the Atelopus are critically endangered it will be tough and expensive to get your hands on them. The only one I have ever seen for sale havs been the
Cayenne harlequin toad, Atelopus flavescens and they were $125 a piece.

For those of you that don't know what Alex and I are talking about, I have included some pictures of some Atelopus toads. The first one is Atelopus flavescens, the only one I have ever seen for sale. The second one I am not sure of species, but sure is pretty.

[tylototriton]

There was just an importation into Europe of Atelopus spumarius of two different subspecies. Like Kurt said, they are incredibly rare in the wild, primarily because they are incredibly susceptible to Chytrid. They are beautiful animals and some species are actually bred quite readily in captivity, like Atelopus zeteki. None are available privately to U.S. keepers at this time though.

Alex

[Kurt]

It is a bummer that we can't get them. I would love some myself.

[tylototriton]

As I understand it, there may be a few actually in the U.S. hobby, but if they're here, no one is admitting to owning them. They are much like Dendrobates histrionicus and sylvaticus. At one point in time all of these species were imported into the U.S. and sold rather inexpensively. Given the large number that were imported it could be assumed that someone somewhere still has some, but I haven't met them. There are in fact many more species in the U.S. hobby than we realize, but the reality is that the general public will probably never get their hands on them. I personally know someone who had probably one of the first (and possibly only) breeding groups of Agalychnis moreletti as well as Theloderma asperum (a shipment of which apparently just came in). These private keepers don't publicize it for a variety of reasons, so in reality we will never know. That being said, I do hope that someday Atelopus populations will be stable enough to allow them into the hobby.

Alex

[tylototriton]

By the way, the second species is Atelopus spumarius of some sort. Quite a pretty specimen.

Alex

[Kurt]

I do hope that someday Atelopus populations will be stable enough to allow them into the hobby.

I hope so. I often wished someone had started captive breeding Bufo periglenes before it went missing.
I thought might be Atelopus spumarius in the picture but I wasn't sure.

[phil7870]

how big are the tigers

[Kurt]

About an inch and a half. The clowns about about the same.

[tylototriton]

Roughly average for tree frogs. That probably doesn't help you. I'd say they run about 2-3 inches in length. Thats generally true for hypochondrialis and tomopterna.

Alex