hello

[jody]

the place I hunt for insects is private property. they raise koi, and never spray. and in fact since I have been hunting them in their unsprayed horse pastures they have made their farm frog and toad friendly, and are happy to see them in their organic gardens.

[Kurt]

You're welcome.

[phil7870]

i still cant figure out which one to get its very hard to decide

[Kurt]

i still cant figure out which one to get its very hard to decide

Well, with your small enclosure it comes down to two choices, the tiger-legged monkey frog and the clown treefrog. I think the monkey is just a little bit tougher than the clown treefrog, so maybe you might want to lean that way.

[tylototriton]

I've got to agree with Kurt. Dumpys are the "standard" starter treefrog, except for maybe Greens (Hyla cinerea). You could only keep Dumpys in a 20G. I'll differ to Kurt about the choice between the species, he has more experience with those specific ones. Both are decent choices though. I'm kind of a sucker for the Harlequins. Whichever you decide, be very careful about your source. There are plenty of places to find frogs, some quite a bit reputable than the rest. Either try to find a breeder or a dealer that is knowledgeable about amphibians. Also, always go for captive bred. Captive bred animals are far better for so many reasons that I won't even go into it. Also, try not to get young animals. Lots of online places offer very recently morphed animals. They are less expensive, but they require smaller food sources (fruit flies, etc) which are harder to obtain and they are more apt to die (fragile would be the more correct term). The older specimens are slightly more expensive but they can take larger crickets and are hardier than the young ones.

Alex

[Kurt]

What do you mean by harlequins? We are not talking Atelopus are we?

[tylototriton]

By Harlequins I mean Clowns. Somewhere along the way I heard them called Harlequins and now I use the two interchangeable.

Hahaha

Although, I would love some Atelopus.