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    I have been reading about tadpole tea.

    Can commercial blackwater extract be used instead of a homemade recipe?
    I have used "Tetra Aqua blackwater extract "in Discus tanks for many years which
    "replicates blackwater/biotopes amazon conditions" and have VERY old Discus.
    I have confidence in the product for the Discus. I have reared spawns using it ; with all water changes for spawns and on regular weekly maintenance.

    Has anyone used 'blackwater' ( in a water area) in their tree frog enclosures on a regular basis?

    Breeding

    The above article on (breeding dendrobates) states a commercial brand is okay but does not provide a commercial brand name, and does not discuss its use otherwise.

    also found this in another Whites care article for "all" the water in the enclosure:

    " Bad water is the number one cause of death for frogs in captivity. We have recently started adding Tetra Black Water Extract to all of our frogs water, which lowers the pH slightly. The frog seem to love it! "

    Lynn
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    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
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    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
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    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

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    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

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    Default Re: tadpole tea and blackwater extract

    Hi Lynn:

    Yes, you can use a commercial blackwater extract, however it would be better to make your own. There are plenty of recipes on the Internet. The acidic water has properties that help prevent bacterial and fungal infections. My Surinam toads like blackwater too!

    I don't know any xanthic red eye owners.
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    Default Re: tadpole tea and blackwater extract

    Thanks Terry,
    I really appreciate your response!
    Lynn
    Current Collection
    Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Default Re: tadpole tea and blackwater extract

    I agree with Terry, although I do prefer using Indian almond leaves.

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    Default Re: tadpole tea and blackwater extract

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt View Post
    I agree with Terry, although I do prefer using Indian almond leaves.
    Hi Kurt,
    Indian almond leaves ?
    Please, please , share details !!
    Thanks, Lynn
    Current Collection
    Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Lynn check them out on eBay, also Josh's frogs has them too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by velvety14u View Post
    Lynn check them out on eBay, also Josh's frogs has them too.
    Oh ! Thank You !!
    I just order them. 2 seconds ago. lol
    Now, I just need to know what I will be doing with them?

    Seriously, I do know.
    BUT , I still want---- AND need- KURT'S advice !

    Lynn
    Current Collection
    Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Default Re: tadpole tea and blackwater extract

    Quote Originally Posted by tgampper View Post
    Hi Lynn:

    Yes, you can use a commercial blackwater extract, however it would be better to make your own. There are plenty of recipes on the Internet. The acidic water has properties that help prevent bacterial and fungal infections. My Surinam toads like blackwater too!

    I don't know any xanthic red eye owners.

    Hi Terry,
    I know it keeps the water a bit more acidic.
    I use it in my discus tanks to make SOFT acidic water.
    "Soft" being--- more the benefit.
    Especially when taking water from the tap on Long Island!
    It's a ph of 7, but very hard !!!
    Thanks again, Lynn
    Current Collection
    Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Default Re: tadpole tea and blackwater extract

    Quote Originally Posted by tgampper View Post
    Hi Lynn:

    Yes, you can use a commercial blackwater extract, however it would be better to make your own. There are plenty of recipes on the Internet. The acidic water has properties that help prevent bacterial and fungal infections. My Surinam toads like blackwater too!

    I don't know any xanthic red eye owners.

    Hi--- Kurt,Terry and Wesley,
    I received my Indian Almond leaves from Josh's Frogs. They are large. I didn't expect that.
    Packed very nicely!


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    NOW! I just have to figure out how I am going to approach this ?

    I store ( 5 gallons at a time ) of treated water for adding to the "froggie spa" areas in my enclosures.
    My frogs soak there---- NOT in dishes. The froggie spas are small sections of water on the bottom that are filtered. I have this water area covered w/ plexi to create a shallow pool. Water changes are done when needed. But, most of the time the water evaporates quickly and is just replaced w/ the stored water on hand. I was considering putting small pieces of the almond leaves into the containers? Or, should it be done more scientifically than that?
    Lynn
    Current Collection
    Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    It's no rocket science at all
    The only thing is that you wan't the substances to be extracted from the leafs,
    wether you make yourself a strong solution that you can mix in before usage or make larger ready to use portion you keep in you're storage containers doesn't matter that much.
    Personally i find the strong solution more handy, you can keep it in bottles with the cap on, it;s just that i think this way the substances are preserved better then in an aerated storage container.
    You can easily dose the way you like and use the rest at a later time.
    When you do it at a container a time, you always have to plan it up front

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    Quote Originally Posted by wesleybrouwer View Post
    It's no rocket science at all
    The only thing is that you wan't the substances to be extracted from the leafs,
    wether you make yourself a strong solution that you can mix in before usage or make larger ready to use portion you keep in you're storage containers doesn't matter that much.
    Personally i find the strong solution more handy, you can keep it in bottles with the cap on, it;s just that i think this way the substances are preserved better then in an aerated storage container.
    You can easily dose the way you like and use the rest at a later time.
    When you do it at a container a time, you always have to plan it up front
    Thanks,Wesley!
    I appreciate your taking the time to respond.
    Lynn
    Current Collection
    Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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