One Pupil Dilated

[TPixie]

I think i have a problem....
My boyfriend bought me 2 red eyed tree frogs for Valentinesday ^.^ theyre only about the size of a dime, we currently have them in a animal cracker jar (drilled tons of holes for ventilation) with some of those zoo med suction vines, a nice big bath bowl and a damp paper towel temp is about 75... the problem is ....we got them in the mail yesterday and one of the babies eye is dilated... what could this be from? should we seperate them? s(he) also has little white freckles on its back, the other one looks just like the picture perfect froggy! they were both a little brownish when we opened the package but that has gone away.... anyways.... back to the eye dilation... what do i do?

[TPixie]

here are a few pics... first two was when we first opened the box... last one is a little while after... and of the dilated pupil <3 i hope theyll be ok i love them so much already

[wesleybrouwer]

I´m not sure what you see is wrong with the pupil,
it seems perfectly fine to me.
The white spots are nothing to worry about,
it´s similair to freckels or birthmarks in human.

What do you mean by animal cracker jar?
If it is what i think it is, i would move them to a appropriate tank soon as possible.
Valentines gifts are great, but it wouldv'e been wiser to give you a decorated tank in which you eventually could put the frogs in, if you ask me.
Planning on a tank already?

[TPixie]

SHOOT!!! the pics didnt load in the order i wanted them to **face palm** the dilated one is the first pic... one eye looks like the last pic... the other eye looks like the first pic... we have a 10gal exoterra or maybe zoomed tank with mesh top and door that opens in the front... set up with those bendy branches and tons of vines and places to hide along with a big water bowl (i think its for rabbit food or something) and cocofiber (eco earth) to help with humidity i just thought it was way too big for them right now and they might not be able to find the food..? is that ok for them? like i said theyre about the size of a dime. the animal jar theyre in right now i think is 1gal.

[TPixie]

here is the 10gal we have set up for them.. i stole some of the vines to put in the one theyre in right now.... anyways... main concern is the ones eyeball... like i said one eye looks normal the other is barely showing any red.... its like ALL Pupil as shown in the first pic above ^

[Danam1218]

He might not like it much but you could try shining a light in that eye to see if the pupil retracts. I wouldn't hold it really close or use a bulb that was too bright so you don't hurt his eye. Even if all he does in response is to close that eye to the light, that would be positive. It's possible he's blind in one eye, I dunno. As long as he acts normal and gets enough to eat I wouldn't worry too much. Watch how he acts around food, if he can't see out of one eye he much be a slow hunter. You might try to figure out a way to separate your frogs during feeding so that the other guy doesn't snatch all the food first. Are they eating crickets or fruit flies right now?

[TPixie]

i just bought them tiny tiny crickets from the lps will try feeding them tonight... i tried the light in the eyeball thing and it doesnt move at all they both are all green now looking like the pictures should i move them out of the 1gal to the 10gal? or maybe another size? i can go out and buy something else for them if i need to i just want to make sure theyre happy and can find their food ^.^

[Odica]

I think the all black eye is cool watch carefully when it eats to see if it can spot food from that side this will tell you if it has any sight in that eye. I hope it dose good luck.

[ViperJr]

I agree with wesleybrouwer, the eyes (and frogs) looks perfectly fine. Their pupils can get really large, and at night (when they're up) you often can't even see the redness in their eyes, just the black pupil.
Move them to the real enclosure. You could (with great success) add a feeding bowl made out of glass (a dessert bowl or whatever) and put the insects in it, since most feeders (crickets, roaches etc.) can't climb/jump on glass. This way you can:
1. Easily monitor how much they are eating
2. Making sure they don't accidentally eat the substrate
3. They'll quickly learn where the food is, and always be able to find it.

When they get bigger, I would move them to a bigger size, but right now (if they're only the size of a dime), the one you have is fine. It looks like a good setup.


Lastly, I agree once again with wesley. Better to give away a terrarium with a promise of an animal, rather than the actual animal

[MugPro]

Sry about the confusion...we bought and built a 15gal tererrium the same day we got the froglets. They have been moved and we are watching their eating now. Will post updates on the one eyed hunter.

[MugPro]

^^^sorry...10gal