Ceramic Heat Emitter Use,

[ViperJr]

I see. Just a little thing to note (which you probably already know). As the temperature rises, the humidity readings (being relative) will fall even with a ceramic bulb.

[flybyferns]

Hi Grif and Martin,
My enclosure in my basement. It is 65 degrees and 35 % humidity down there in the winter.
The summer is easy ( but very different)--- the winter is a struggle!

I HAD a 75w ceramic above the enclosure at one point this winter. It made the top so hot! I moved it - suspended it from a ceiling rafter, aimed it toward the glass ---about 6-7 inches away, 1/2 way down the enclosure/glass . Aiming it toward the 'mid-way' made a huge difference! Kind of like a side mounted heating pad. It seems to diffuse the heat more evenly. Just keep an eye on the glass temp( by touching it). I check the heat on the glass --from the inside of the enclosure. I put foil around the back of a dome shade in the shape of a big arch; this directs the heat toward the enclosure! It looks terrible, but it works. W/out the foil , I find the heat is lost. Note: My dome fixture has a ceramic base to screw the bulb into.
I think lamp stand idea would work great !!! It would be very adjustable!
Lynn

[GrifTheGreat]

Hi Grif and Martin,
My enclosure in my basement. It is 65 degrees and 35 % humidity down there in the winter.
The summer is easy ( but very different)--- the winter is a struggle!

I HAD a 75w ceramic above the enclosure at one point this winter. It made the top so hot! I moved it - suspended it from a ceiling rafter, aimed it toward the glass ---about 6-7 inches away, 1/2 way down the enclosure/glass . Aiming it toward the 'mid-way' made a huge difference! Kind of like a side mounted heating pad. It seems to diffuse the heat more evenly. Just keep an eye on the glass temp( by touching it). I check the heat on the glass --from the inside of the enclosure. I put foil around the back of a dome shade in the shape of a big arch; this directs the heat toward the enclosure! It looks terrible, but it works. W/out the foil , I find the heat is lost. Note: My dome fixture has a ceramic base to screw the bulb into.
I think lamp stand idea would work great !!! It would be very adjustable!
Lynn

Thanks for the info Lynn. I was afraid of the top becoming hot, but Pacman frogs don't climb so that won't be to much of an issue. Ill have to come up with some testing without involving the frogs for safety. I plan on actually upgrading Grif to a larger Exo Terra square terrarium. More ground space to work with and possibly some live plants like a Pothos. Not sure. Will get what I want and set it up and experimant with it for a few days.

[GrifTheGreat]

I see. Just a little thing to note (which you probably already know). As the temperature rises, the humidity readings (being relative) will fall even with a ceramic bulb.

Of course, but I've heard its not as definite as with bulbs that produce light and all my bulbs burn it of farely well. Perhaps if I suspend it above the enclosure it would burn off less?

[ViperJr]

Of course, but I've heard its not as definite as with bulbs that produce light and all my bulbs burn it of farely well. Perhaps if I suspend it above the enclosure it would burn off less?

Having two identical setups, where the only difference is that one is warmer than the other (even if it's not heated by a lamp, just ambiently warmer), the warmer setup will read a lower value on a hygrometer, since relative humidity just measures what percentages of water vapor that is present, in regards to how much water vapor that it can hold as maximum at that temperature). That means that heat does not necessarily always "burns" humidity way, but instead increases the highest amount of water that can be hold, and therefore lowers the percentages shown on a hygrometer. That being said, heat can of course cause a dryer environment and reduce the humidity readings that way as well (actually reducing the water vapor levels). Unfortunately, I do not how much difference actual visible light affects the drying-out process.

I'm sorry, this is hard to explain for me in English. And it's not getting easier when it's 01:30 in the night, and I've worked the entire day...

[flybyferns]

Having two identical setups, where the only difference is that one is warmer than the other (even if it's not heated by a lamp, just ambiently warmer), the warmer setup will read a lower value on a hygrometer, since relative humidity just measures what percentages of water vapor that is present, in regards to how much water vapor that it can hold as maximum at that temperature). That means that heat does not necessarily always "burns" humidity way, but instead increases the highest amount of water that can be hold, and therefore lowers the percentages shown on a hygrometer. That being said, heat can of course cause a dryer environment and reduce the humidity readings that way as well (actually reducing the water vapor levels). Unfortunately, I do not how much difference actual visible light affects the drying-out process.

I'm sorry, this is hard to explain for me in English. And it's not getting easier when it's 01:30 in the night, and I've worked the entire day...

lol Your English is just fine !
Good night , Martin !!!!
Go to bed !!

[GrifTheGreat]

Having two identical setups, where the only difference is that one is warmer than the other (even if it's not heated by a lamp, just ambiently warmer), the warmer setup will read a lower value on a hygrometer, since relative humidity just measures what percentages of water vapor that is present, in regards to how much water vapor that it can hold as maximum at that temperature). That means that heat does not necessarily always "burns" humidity way, but instead increases the highest amount of water that can be hold, and therefore lowers the percentages shown on a hygrometer. That being said, heat can of course cause a dryer environment and reduce the humidity readings that way as well (actually reducing the water vapor levels). Unfortunately, I do not how much difference actual visible light affects the drying-out process.

I'm sorry, this is hard to explain for me in English. And it's not getting easier when it's 01:30 in the night, and I've worked the entire day...

No worries Martin. I understand relative humidity and my Hygrotherm reads relative humidity. Its a pretty cool device. Even converts Fereinheight to Celcius on the digital gauge. Has a lot of settings to use. Its a great investment. Once it drops below the set percentage it kicks a fogger on. My infrared lights tend to burn off less humidity than my daylight basking lights. This one reason that I have observed that infrared may not remove as much humidity if there is no actual light produced. Not exactly sure how it works, but its a good thing to think about.

I worked all day too. I start feeling really tired around this time. Its 7:42 pm here.

[J Teezy]

Grif time to go BIG TIME and get one of these bad boys

EcoZone Vivarium - Vivarium Controllers provide Naturalistic Habitats for Reptiles and Herps. Programmable proportional Temperature, Lighting, and Mister Control

[GrifTheGreat]

Grif time to go BIG TIME and get one of these bad boys

EcoZone Vivarium - Vivarium Controllers provide Naturalistic Habitats for Reptiles and Herps. Programmable proportional Temperature, Lighting, and Mister Control

Lol! I would love to have one of those. I don't even think I have enough equipment to make full use of that enviro control simulator. Not in the budget right now either. Looks worth every penny though. Adding to wish list now

[J Teezy]

Lol! I would love to have one of those. I don't even think I have enough equipment to make full use of that enviro control simulator. Not in the budget right now either. Looks worth every penny though. Adding to wish list now

I hear that. Pricey but man i want one. will definitely be saving up for one for my next build. Its going to be plush. You should make your wedding registery for terrarium supplies!!!

Next build hopes and dreams:

Exo terra 24x18x24 or 24x18x18 with water fall or drip wall
EcoZone controller
Mistking
Reptifogger
Internal circulation fans or maybe air exchanger

it's going to be pricey

[flybyferns]

Lol! I would love to have one of those. I don't even think I have enough equipment to make full use of that enviro control simulator. Not in the budget right now either. Looks worth every penny though. Adding to wish list now

Wow, That looks awesome! It would eliminate so many other plugs, etc.
You could hook up an old lap top?
All this equipment- gosh, the plugs are everywhere !
I just hung a 2nd big surge protector!
I'm on speed dial to the fire dept ! lol
Warmer weather would help- If it ever gets here!