Quote Originally Posted by Jenste View Post
AmmoLock etc are not ways to remove ammonia from toxic levels. You limit water changes when you are doing what is called a "fish-less" (or in this case "frog-less" cycle). When you have living creatures in the tank, it is cruel to subject them to toxic levels of ammonia which burns their skin in order to make the cycle happen faster for the tank owner.

The frog's well being is the main concern here, so clean water is of the highest level of importance. I am sure the tank owner does not mind doing more frequent small water changes in order to give the frogs healthy water.


And to the thread owner - - Do you treat your water? You can buy water dechlorinator that removes the chlorine with in a few minutes, rather than having to let the water sit out for long periods of time. It is fairly cheap (less than $10) and one bottle lasts me with 6 tanks MONTHS.

The frogs will get use to their light - they have no eyelids so when you first turn it on it will startle them, but they will settle in quickly. Can't wait for pictures of their new home!

I can't speak for Ammloc, but the product I referred to - Prime - actually does detoxify ammonia, nitrite and nitrate unless you know something about Seachem's products that they don't - in which case you may want to alert them to edit their product description before they cause the death of millions of fish and other aquatic pets.

"Product Description:
Prime® is the complete and concentrated conditioner for both fresh and salt water. Prime® removes chlorine, chloramine and ammonia. Prime® converts ammonia into a safe, non-toxic form that is readily removed by the tank’s biofilter. Prime® may be used during tank cycling to alleviate ammonia/nitrite toxicity. Prime® detoxifies nitrite and nitrate, allowing the biofilter to more efficiently remove them. It will also detoxify any heavy metals found in the tap water at typical concentration levels. Prime® also promotes the production and regeneration of the natural slime coat. Prime® is non-acidic and will not impact pH. Prime® will not overactivate skimmers. Use at start-up and whenever adding or replacing water."

As I said in my initial post though, its probably still best to do partial water changes when they reach the higher levels to be on the safe side. Anyway, that's just something that I've found works for me while (according to the product description) not being harmful to the inhabitants of the tank... I'm in no way forcing anyone to follow my path.

Edit: In case anyone is interested in more detail, this is an extract form the Seachem website:

"Why It's (Prime) Different:
Nearly all companies manufacture a product that removes chlorine. None of those, however, can compare in quality, concentration, or effectiveness to Seachem’s flagship product: Prime®. Prime® is the second most concentrated dechlorinator on the market after our own aquavitro alpha™. A single 100 mL bottle will treat 1000 US gallons of tap water. Prime® will remove both chlorine and chloramines from municipal water supplies.

Prime® also contains a binder which renders ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate non-toxic. It is very important to understand how those two functions work together. All dechlorinators operate through a chemical process known as reduction. In this process, toxic dissolved chlorine gas (Cl2) is converted into non-toxic chloride ions (Cl-). The reduction process also breaks the bonds between chlorine and nitrogen atoms in the chloramine molecule (NH2Cl), freeing the chlorine atoms and replacing them with hydrogen (H) to create ammonia (NH3).

Typically, dechlorinators stop there, leaving an aquarium full of toxic ammonia! Seachem takes the necessary next step by including an ammonia binder to detoxify the ammonia produced in the reduction process.

Be very careful when purchasing water conditioners. If your municipality includes chloramines in the water supplies, a standard sodium thiosulfate dechlorinator is not enough. Prime® promotes the natural production and restoration of the slime coat rather than relying on artificial or non-native slime compounds. A further bonus for the reef hobbyist—Prime® will not overactivate protein skimmers."