Harsh words = no help!!

[ViperJr]

It seems like an arguement rather than a discussion because one member that disagreed on your opinions which was seconded by Royce showing you both agreed on the same thing which inturn is frustrating and obviously makeing Gail feel ganged up on to the point to where she no longer wants to respond to a thread she started in the first place.. Since you both reply nack to her at the same time on the same pos and even with sarchasm which in itelf is rude and unecessary. When you voice your opinion in a pushy manner or use sarchasm in a "discussion" it quickly turns to arguement. I've said it a million times "There are no friendly arguements or discussions" now of course not always true, but every friendly discussion I've ever encountered on here that contains difference of opinion which all are entitled too, it ends like this. One or more people angry when all should have been avoided rather than fueled.

I just have to answer to this one last them, then I'm all good and onto observer-mode.
Yes, we did answered at the same time, but that was just a coincidence and we had nothing to do with each other. When I started typing, no registered member was even reading the thread. He both started and finished his reply within the time it took me to write mine, so that's not relevant in any way. I'm not aware of me ever using sarcasm (in this thread) either.

One or more people angry when all should have been avoided rather than fueled.

Not sure who you are referring to. No-one should be angered by this. People have just expressed their opinion, and then I explained some thing further to you (since this particular discussion has pretty much been between you and me alone) and you replied, and I sure are not angry.
I also find this "discussions are bad (almost) always bad" so, so strange on a forum. If discussions are to be avoided, I should probably stop posting all together on FF (or if just you and I keep our distances )

(According to many dictionaries I've just checked (both online and paperback), argument = discussion, so I'm not even sure what you're trying to say when "discussions turns into arguments". Not trying to sound rude, I'm just not understanding entirely, since English isn't my native language)

Lastly, I just want to press that I'm not angered or offended by any of this and I hope I have not angered anyone, because that was never my intention. However, I really beleive people need to be able to handle other people not agreeing with them, especially when posting on a public forum on ze internet

[GrifTheGreat]

I just have to answer to this one last them, then I'm all good and onto observer-mode.
Yes, we did answered at the same time, but that was just a coincidence and we had nothing to do with each other. When I started typing, no registered member was even reading the thread. He both started and finished his reply within the time it took me to write mine, so that's not relevant in any way. I'm not aware of me ever using sarcasm (in this thread) either.


Not sure who you are referring to. No-one should be angered by this. People have just expressed their opinion, and then I explained some thing further to you (since this particular discussion has pretty much been between you and me alone) and you replied, and I sure are not angry.
I also find this "discussions are bad (almost) always bad" so, so strange on a forum. If discussions are to be avoided, I should probably stop posting all together on FF (or if just you and I keep our distances )

(According to many dictionaries I've just checked (both online and paperback), argument = discussion, so I'm not even sure what you're trying to say when "discussions turns into arguments". Not trying to sound rude, I'm just not understanding entirely, since English isn't my native language)

Lastly, I just want to press that I'm not angered or offended by any of this and I hope I have not angered anyone, because that was never my intention. However, I really beleive people need to be able to handle other people not agreeing with them, especially when posting on a public forum on ze internet

Lol! No worries Martin. I'm not angered either. Gail seemed to get angry before the end of her posting. That's who I referred to as being angry. I said that when a discussion turns into an arguement it should be avoided. I wish that everyone would just respect one anothers opinion rather than try to change it. When we try to change someones opinion it usually ends in conflict. Since we both respect others opinions why should we avoid one another? we are not arguing, we are discussing correct? Do not misunderstand my intent. since all is well I think we ended on a good note.

[Flemish]

@GrifTheGreat
- I was also saying:

"It is just being too easy hiding behind a screen flaming another person,
**which is why it should not take place at all..."**

Meaning, that I do actually agree with you saying:
"Non the less we should be respectful and constructive not destructive."
-Aye certainly. Yes, please... By all means!! (And I believe I am!)

By "guts" and "in the open"... I meant maybe one would think twice before risking making a fool of one self in front of everyone.
Maybe the tone would be somewhat harder writing in PM, is only what I meant!

[GrifTheGreat]

@GrifTheGreat
- I was also saying:

"It is just being too easy hiding behind a screen flaming another person,
**which is why it should not take place at all..."**

Meaning, that I do actually agree with you saying:
"Non the less we should be respectful and constructive not destructive."
-Aye certainly. Yes, please... By all means!! (And I believe I am!)

By "guts" and "in the open"... I meant maybe one would think twice before risking making a fool of one self in front of everyone.
Maybe the tone would be somewhat harder writing in PM, is only what I meant!

Understood, but the tone would not necessarily be harder as long as you try not to make it so.

[Dehumaneyez]

Flemish mate you've hit the nail on the head there 100 percent. I am in total agrreeance with your post.

It certainly doesn't pay to harrass anyone online or otherwise, and if you haven't got the nads to do it in public and put yourself up for the same kind of scrutiny than you are not worth much in my eyes, that's for sure.

[kueluck]

To GrifTheGreat and every one else: I’m not angry at any one, just really frustrated that someone thinks it’s okay to tell a person that has done everything they possible could to save a frog, who also took advice from this forum, but then some one posted that if they would have done more it may still be alive and to do so in public instead of a PM. It’s hard enough on the person who lost the frog, and then to point fingers at them about the loss. I’ve seen this happen more than once and it turns people away from seeking advice here because they have been “reprimanded” on the public forum, labeled as a frog killer. On a PM you can just ignore it if you so choose.