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    The temp on the hot side is at 85 and the cool side around 75. Humidity levels usually stay around 80%. Yes I use dechlorinated water for the substrate. Its been a couple of months and I wasn't too worried about that because he did the same thing last year during the same period of time. It gets cold here during the winter so I just thought it was a form of hibernation. He doesnt shed normally, usually when hes in the water i see pieces of slimey skin on him and i peel it off slowly. Other times i just see pieces floating in the water. The skin appear brown once peeled off. My frog didnt seem to lose weight but now I cant tell due to his bloated appearance. He feels squishy when I touch him. Hmmm I wouldnt say hes lethargic but he does move around once in a while. He seems very alert as well. Another thing is that he closes his eyes for long periods of time. As of right now I put him into a quarantine tank with paper towel. I changed his substrate once a month and his water daily or when soiled. He hasn't pooped in a long time since he hasnt eaten in a while. I force fed him a couple of weeks ago and he ate the worms. But now when I try to force feed him he just spits it out. I dont think its impaction because his belly doesnt have any form of a hard lump. Hope this answers all fo your questions. Thanks for the help
    Does he have any lesions or sores on his skin?

    Hmmm if he feels squishy would you say it feels like he is full of liquid?

    You can treat a bloat with salt water, but you have to use salt that doesn't contain iodine. Sea salt is best. You can prepare a bath of luke warm to warm water. Just under 80 degrees. You can disolve 1/4 to 1/2 a teaspoon of sea salt disolved in the water before soaking him. Make sure the water is no deeper than up to his chin.

    Without a specialist to test samples of the skin it is hard to diagnose chytrid. I can't be sure. Jessica from IvoryReptiles can also assist in this issue. Hopefully she will see this post and give me a hand helping you.


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    Does he have any lesions or sores on his skin?

    Hmmm if he feels squishy would you say it feels like he is full of liquid?

    You can treat a bloat with salt water, but you have to use salt that doesn't contain iodine. Sea salt is best. You can prepare a bath of luke warm to warm water. Just under 80 degrees. You can disolve 1/4 to 1/2 a teaspoon of sea salt disolved in the water before soaking him. Make sure the water is no deeper than up to his chin.

    Without a specialist to test samples of the skin it is hard to diagnose chytrid. I can't be sure. Jessica from IvoryReptiles can also assist in this issue. Hopefully she will see this post and give me a hand helping you.
    He has two tiny sores but they seem like they have healed over. I never noticed them. They aren't red or brighly coloured, they have a very light pink hue to them.Yes, he feels like hes full of water. I can partially see through his underside and it seems like a clear liquid.I've tried the saltwater treatment and I dont see any difference. I actually think he got a bit larger after the initial soak. Must I do these soaks on a daily basis ? Also regarding the chytrid treatment, I was preparing to have him treated with that exact remedy but I soon found out that lamisil AT is a prescribed medication here.

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    There are other treatments as well, one uses an eye ointment.....Google "Chytrid Fungus Treatments" there are many articles out there. Lamasil is an over the counter foot fungus treatment in the US, I had no idea it was prescription only in your area.

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    There are other treatments as well, one uses an eye ointment.....Google "Chytrid Fungus Treatments" there are many articles out there. Lamasil is an over the counter foot fungus treatment in the US, I had no idea it was prescription only in your area.
    Seems like most of the treatments online are prescription drugs. Think I found one that might not be but I'll have to look into it. I also found some info on using fish fungal treatments to treat chytrid on frogs. Just wondering if anyone thinks that its worth a shot to try out. They also mentioned heat treatment but I dnt support the idea of raising the water temperature with my frog in it above 35 degrees for an extended period of time.

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    Seems like most of the treatments online are prescription drugs. Think I found one that might not be but I'll have to look into it. I also found some info on using fish fungal treatments to treat chytrid on frogs. Just wondering if anyone thinks that its worth a shot to try out. They also mentioned heat treatment but I dnt support the idea of raising the water temperature with my frog in it above 35 degrees for an extended period of time.
    If the salt water bath doesn't help with the bloat stop doing it try it one more time to see if it helps. Sometimes it takes a few soaks to help, but if he gets larger again stop. The bad thing with water retention is that it can also be a sign of kidney disease which I hope that it is not. A vet that specializes in amphibians could diagnose kidney disease as well as try and give you more advice on treating your frog or treat your frog him/herself. Bloating can be very bad. There is also a disease called Dropsy that is fluid retention within different parts of the body.

    Post some photos of your frog if you can so we can see what he looks like. Try different angles and above and below as well as side to side.


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    If the salt water bath doesn't help with the bloat stop doing it try it one more time to see if it helps. Sometimes it takes a few soaks to help, but if he gets larger again stop. The bad thing with water retention is that it can also be a sign of kidney disease which I hope that it is not. A vet that specializes in amphibians could diagnose kidney disease as well as try and give you more advice on treating your frog or treat your frog him/herself. Bloating can be very bad. There is also a disease called Dropsy that is fluid retention within different parts of the body.

    Post some photos of your frog if you can so we can see what he looks like. Try different angles and above and below as well as side to side.
    I have sad news, Luigi died last night. I appreciate the help and attention given in this matter. Thanks alot

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    I am so sorry for you loss. It is always hard to lose a pet. I wish there was more we could have done to help. RIP Luigi.


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