Albino Pacman Frog Questions

[sobo]

I think there must be something wrong with your humidity gauge. Those keepers aren't the greatest at holding in humidity, but I've never had trouble keeping it atleast 65%. If you are having trouble this much with humidity levels I would buy a 5 gallon tank to keep him in that is glass. It may be a lot easier for you to keep him warm and humid this way. If you mist too much trying to raise humidity you will make the substrate overly wet which is bad. Pacman frogs need moist or heavily damp substrate not mud. Keepers are not the best enclosures. They are only good for a temporary home.

Test your hygrometer and see if it is working properly or go out and buy a digital one. Analog gauges aren't the most accurate of gauges out there.

I'm not sure about the Tomato frog humidity. I think its 60 to 70%.

Its a brand new gauge I just bought when I got him. I got it to 50 now, do you think he would be good in a 10 gallon tank?
He hasnt ate anything yet, and he gets scared everytime I take the top off the cage. Its been 4 days since I got him.

Is this all normal? Can they go a week or 2 without eating when they are a baby?

[GrifTheGreat]

Its a brand new gauge I just bought when I got him. I got it to 50 now, do you think he would be good in a 10 gallon tank?
He hasnt ate anything yet, and he gets scared everytime I take the top off the cage. Its been 4 days since I got him.

Is this all normal? Can they go a week or 2 without eating when they are a baby?

Hmm 10 is very large for a baby. If you can maintain 80 to 82 degrees and keep the humidity up it is possible to house a baby in a 10 gallon. The bad thing is that they need a lot of food and nutrition as babies and the more space there is the harder it is for them to catch food. It may be too much for him/her. I raised Grif since she was a baby about the size of a half dallor in a 10 gallon. I ran her food to her and she wasn't very frightened of me though.

It is normal for them not to eat when they are adjusting to a new home. Some will eat an hour after being placed in their new home and others will take upwards to a week. It all depends on the frog. You can try talking to your frog before removing the lid and after doing so. You may think this is silly or weird, but they are animals and can respond to sound. It takes time for them to not see you as a threat. When you feed him/her break the hind legs off the crickets. It makes them easier to catch.

Keep us posted on his/her progress.

[Mentat]

Mmmm would get another hygrometer because your''s could be off. I get mine at PETCO; they sell some cheap ones that work pretty good. Just look at all of them in store and avoid the ones that read very different from the group. Also, have a digital one at home that I use to check how the cheaper analogs are doing once a week. The hygrometer should be located close to substrate, not enclosure top, to read right humidity.

Since your frog is not eating and stressed would think a move into the 10 gal. is advisable. Will need to either lead crickets to frog (and remove hind legs) or feed worms to ensure baby frog eats. Also, avoid loud noises and talking while working on frogs tank. My Pacman does not likes and get's scared when I talk on phone while feeding or cleaning tank.

Do make sure that you cover 3 sides and adjust ventilation so humidity is maintained properly. Would start the 10 with half the screen top covered with plastic wrap (from kitchen). Heat from a 50W ceramic emitter (or similar heat source) in a dimmable fixture (Fluker's makes them) can be placed on the other side.

Search forum for "false bottom" set-ups; it's a simple great way to maintain humidity without need for constant spraying. Only materials needed are hydroballs and plastic screening for a simple one or can add an undergravel aquarium filter (or build similar) to have draining/filling access.

IRT Tomato frog; might consider holding off on that until you get the Pacman stable. Have not kept them before and the forum has no care sheets for them yet; but can find a few if you Google for it. One thing I know is that you keep them at lower temps and babies/juveniles are sensitive to even low 80's.

[sobo]

Thanks for all the advice, but I think I have the cage settled. I have digital gauges coming in the next couple days, but everything seems to be fine.

The only problem is ive had him for a week and he still has not ate. I think its becasue hes stressed or something because he doesnt even try to go for the crickets.
He just lets them walk very slowly right by his face

[GrifTheGreat]

Thanks for all the advice, but I think I have the cage settled. I have digital gauges coming in the next couple days, but everything seems to be fine.

The only problem is ive had him for a week and he still has not ate. I think its becasue hes stressed or something because he doesnt even try to go for the crickets.
He just lets them walk very slowly right by his face

If it comes down to it you may have to force feed the little guy/girl. Some don't acclimate easily. I would try to get some food and vitamins in him/her. Might help bring him/her out of it. Although force feeding also causes stress if you feel like your frog may starve you should force feed. Ido not know for sure what is stressing your little frog. Perhaps too much traffic where you have your frogs enclosre or too much activity as well as light around the tank during feeding. They don't like when you turn on lights in your the room they are in when its supposed to be dark and them active.

[IvoryReptiles]

Try some cut pieces of nightcrawler before you start force feeding. Do your best NOT to do everything right over his head.
Like any small animal, baby frogs know that if it casts a shadow over you, it's probably going to eat you!!
Be a Ninja Frog-Keeper...........do as much as you can, as sly as possible. Try not to cast a shadow over him while misting.cover 3 sides with dark paper or background and let the frog see you moving around in the room.......let him get used to you being out there. But like I said, when working in it's cage, try your best not to cast shadows.

Hope this helps!

[GrifTheGreat]

Do as Jessica says. Force feeding is only a last resort in a life or death senario. Only if absolutely necessary. I hope he/she eats for you soon.

[sobo]

Try some cut pieces of nightcrawler before you start force feeding. Do your best NOT to do everything right over his head.
Like any small animal, baby frogs know that if it casts a shadow over you, it's probably going to eat you!!
Be a Ninja Frog-Keeper...........do as much as you can, as sly as possible. Try not to cast a shadow over him while misting.cover 3 sides with dark paper or background and let the frog see you moving around in the room.......let him get used to you being out there. But like I said, when working in it's cage, try your best not to cast shadows.

Hope this helps!

Wel what im doing is leading the cricket to him with my hand, it walks by him than i pick it up and do it again. After about 3 times, i take it out and try again that night. I do it once in the afternoon and once at night. Im hoping one day he will eat one, than be good from there.
Is this a good idea? It will give him a chance to get used to me as well, since my hand will always be in there.

The shadow thing makes sense, because in his little cage everytime i put the lid on he would freak out. Thanks for that, i didnt know why he was freaking out XD.



Thanks for the advice! I will try the worms if this doesnt work, but how would you force feed a frog? How long can he go without eating? Hes still as small as in that picture, hes a little baby.