Hi Steve,

I think that is why Noah's set up is working so well. He is religious about partial water changes. He watches his toads very carefully checking them over visually every day, things do seem quite balanced. The bristle nose albina pleco has never been observed near the toads and to be honest, having watched the toads, I would very much doubt that they would tolerate anything sucking on them they would simply get out of the way. The comment about the sailfin pleco being too big we addressed by making the decision to get a small one, he was about 2 inches long and keep him till such a time that his size was an issue for him and the other fellow occupants in the tank at which point our local specialist store would have taken him back and exchanged him for another small one. I guess, in retrospect, it would be much simpler to get a rubber lipped instead then the size would not be a factor! Thanks��