White's Tree Frog Temperature and Humidity

[asdfgh]

Hey guys. I have been having some trouble getting the temperature and humidity correct, so I was wondering if you could help out. They read as follows:

Temperature:

Max = 23 -- 24C
Min = 18 -- 19C
Current = 23 -- 24C

Humidity:

Max = 70 -- 78%
Min = 48 -- 52%
Current = 55 -- 60%

Day and night temperature and humidity are more or less the same.

I am using a 17" x 11" heatmat with a 18" x 18" x 18" Exo Terra Terrarium, and Exo Terra thermometer/hygrometer.

Another thing I have noticed is that the heatmat barely feels warm on the outside, and the inside of the enclosure is only slightly above room temperature, so I think it may be broken.

The humidity is without misting. I have not misted it once yet. (Not got the frogs right now) I do have LECA with mesh and quite a large water area, so I think that this may be contributing towards the humidity.

Thanks.

[DonLisk]

Post a pic of the enclosure so others might see a solution to dropping the daytime humidity a bit. The more open the top the more humidity wwill escape. Also placement of the hydrometer is important too. Putting it near your water source will usually read higher then having it placed near the top where the frogs will or should be hanging out. Oh, do you run a light on top in the day? Lighting burns off humidity fast.

When buying a hydrometer, compare its reading to other in the store. If its reading different than a few others its probably not reading correctly.

Do you plan on changing out the water area pretty regularly and is the depth low enough for the frogs to sit in its deepest part without submerging? Whites are pretty dirty frogs and will trash a water source fast. Usually large water dishes have to changes out daily.

[asdfgh]

Sorry, I have not got a camera right now.

I have canopy with two 2.0 13 watt lights, (running from seven to seven) so half of the mesh is exposed. The hydrometer is in the top left of the enclosure, near to the heatmat as I figured that this is where the frogs would be most often. I bought the hydrometer online, so I could not check it. I did however get sent two, so I shall try out the other.

The water area is a little over an inch deep, about 2 1/2 to 3 wide and 18 long. I have since discovered that I did not use enough LECA so the substrate is pretty soggy. I shall be draining it and replacing the pool with a water bowl soon. I am aware that live plants raise humidity; there is four live plants and about a 40x20 cm sheet of moss, if that helps.

And what about the heating? I am pretty concerned about that at the moment as I feel that the humidity may have something to do with the soggy substrate.

[mim]

ok, well ur heat mat probably isnt broken, i thought the same thing wen i first got mine. they dont get hot to touch as itd b too dangerous. they only get warm but they do bump up the heat. i have two on mine but only usually one is turned on. the other is just incase it is really cold. on the one thats always on i have packing foam so the heat doesnt escape. u can use cardboard aswell. also put it underneath the tank, thatll help. as for humidity. try to reduce the amount of open space at the top as itll just escape. just use somethin to cover it up and ull b able to control the humidity a bit better. make sure u r misting once u get the frogs. was the substrate too soggy before u put it in? i have a light on 6-6. i have repti glo 10.0 uvb bulb. im unsure of wot other types of bulbs etc u can use, ull have to ask someone else (sorry) but i dont think u want anythin throwin off too much heat as itll dry the frogs out. hopefully this helps a bit

[asdfgh]

Well, I have sorted out the humidity. But I am still having problems with the heat -- again, I think that the mat may be broken. It simply does not feel the least bit hot inside. I might try covering the exposed mesh as I think that the heat may be escaping through there.

[asdfgh]

I have got the humidity down to 55% -- 60%. I misted about twenty minutes ago and it shot up to 88%, but that will go down soon.

I have also switched the heat mat. This one is smaller, but has a higher heat output. Now it reads:

Max = 32C
Min = 25C
Current = 24C

The thermometer is on the opposite side to the heater now, so I shall switch that around. My question is; does the temperature need dropping slightly? Thanks.