Hello from Quebec

[Poly]

We easilly have cricket here xD In every pet shop!

And I know exactly were too find Fruitfly. I can command some where I purchase my gecko's food.

Well, maybe it's just because I live in NORTHERN Ontario, I can hardly find anything!

[ViperJr]

BUT, darts arn't generally recommended for beginners, that's why I thought FBT's would be a good choice. It's hard enough getting crickets in Canada, nevermind fruit flies..... -.- lol

Hey, I didn't say FBT was a bad advice, I agreed with you
Just wanted to expand the search a little bit, since there are some dart frogs that are relatively easy to care for. But yes, they are more fragile, but you're not supposed to handle frogs anyway

Pacmans doesn't really match your wishes in a frog. They are nocturnal, not very active, and not the most interesting even when they move Not saying you shouldn't get one, just saying.

[Bibilibop]

They are noctural too? -_-
Yeah well for an unknow reason they were the most interessting specie in my mind lol, even if they are scarying me... xD Too aggressive and their mouth are so BIG!

So... Bombina may be interessting, but I found them a little bit too small... I prefer large frogs. They look more friendly ( It's in my head, i know). I don't want a frog to take her in my hand and pet her. I really want a observation species.

So, the most active and interessting are really FBT? Another species in mind?

I should choose an interessting one, because i've been disapointed by my gecko ( She's noctural and I never see her. i love her tought but... well ...)

[ViperJr]

And, as for darts, they need large enclosures, and most who keep them will tell you that they should be kept in groups.

Large enclosures? No, not really. It of course depends on the species, but generally you don't need a large enclosure, no.

They are noctural too? -_-
Yeah well for an unknow reason they were the most interessting specie in my mind lol, even if they are scarying me... xD Too aggressive and their mouth are so BIG!

So... Bombina may be interessting, but I found them a little bit too small... I prefer large frogs. They look more friendly ( It's in my head, i know). I don't want a frog to take her in my hand and pet her. I really want a observation species.

So, the most active and interessting are really FBT? Another species in mind?

I should choose an interessting one, because i've been disapointed by my gecko ( She's noctural and I never see her. i love her tought but... well ...)

Well, it's all what you prefer. If you ask me, Bombina orientalis are not the most interesting, but plenty of people do think so. No one can answer that question for you, you need to figure out for yourself which species you find most interesting. Eric Robillard wrote a good article about choosing a frog, you should check it out!

Frog Forum - Choosing a Frog

[Bibilibop]

I have read it.... It didn't help me lol!

So, what are the most interesting frogs if I ask you ? :P

[ViperJr]

I'm a tree frog person, with Agalychnis callidryas being my absolute favorite in every aspect. Other incredibly interesting tree frogs which I personally like a lot are Trachycephalus resinifictrix, Phyllomedusa hypochondrialis, Dendropsophus leucophyllatus. Although not being true tree frogs, I'm a big fan of the Theloderma genus, especially the Theloderma corticale. But, like you said, tree frogs are for people who do not have a need to observe their frogs all the time. You need to let them have their privacy and just look at the occasionally. Like Kurt so nicely put it in a care article for Agalychnis callidryas:
" Keep in mind that red-eyes are not really a good display animal, nor are they a decent "pet". They will sleep during the day, looking like a green lump on the glass of your terrarium, and when they do become active you will be a big lump in your bed. So if you are going to keep and raise Agalychnis callidryas, do it because you just love this frog, as I do."


(I only keep two species of frogs right now, Agalychnis callidryas and Theloderma corticale)

[Bibilibop]

Ha!!
My favorites species are really white tree frog and you named the other one : Mossy frog.

I made reshearchs for them and you're right, they are tree frog, but also great swimmers! They are just so beautifull! I really like their apparence.

Can you show me a picture of you terrarium for them?

[ViperJr]

What I meant with "not true tree frogs", is that they are not in the Hylidae family, but the Rhacophoridae family.
I made a thread about my mossys a while back, which I still updated (mostly with pictures of the frogs). I have a picture of the terrarium, but it doesn't justify the tank, really... But anyway, here's the thread!

http://www.frogforum.net/other-frogs...corticale.html

[Bibilibop]

The terrarium is really great! What size it is?

Oh forget, I just saw it ! 80 cm high, 70 cm long ?

[ViperJr]

"It's a corner terrarium that's 80 cm high. The sides (from the back corner to the front) is 70 cm, so it's a fairly large tank (at least it's not a small tank)"

[Bibilibop]

Damn it's really cool!

Pictures of the frog sleeping are my favorites! <3

I really like those frogs... But i'm scared about strating in this size ( Is not the smaller tank...) and with this complex decoration. It sure is a project I would like to have one day, but I think I should start with something more... easy?

[ViperJr]

Thank you

Well, I agree that they probably not the easiest have the easiest terrarium-requirement, but it's certainly not impossible. There are hundreds of ways to decorate a terrarium for a tree-dwelling frog, some more complicated than others. The two tricky parts with mossys are:

1. They get fairly large and are not super delicate climbers, which means you'll need more sturdy plants than what a smaller tree frog would.
2. They require a water part, not just a water bowl. Preferably moving water. A water part means more maintenance and more work.

I think you should start with the one species that you are most interesting in, be it mossys, dart frogs, bullfrogs, FBT or something else. I'm not the biggest fan of the "I want a frog what can I get"-mentality, but of course that's just my personal opinion. Of course, hours and hours of research before hand is required, as well finishing and maintaining the terrarium a while before the frogs arrive.

[Bibilibop]

Don't worry!
I've already been looking for frog since a while and I won't have frog before this sumer.

That's why I doing so much ressearch. I like those creature, they are really interesting. I'm suposed to go in an reptils exposition next month, i'll check if they have frogs to be more sure about my choice.

Also, I would prepare everything before to have the animal : Terrarium, humidity level, temperature, decoration.

And, if after all my ressearch, I don't find any frog that could be perfect for me... Well, I won't take one just to have one

I really care about my pets. When I adpot one, it's forever

[ViperJr]

Sounds great! I did not mean to sound rude, it was not directed to you personally, just generally speaking. Not all people are as responsible, that's all

Whatever you decide on, keep us posted!

[Bibilibop]

Don't worry! I really do want a frog so I should hang around lol!

Thx for all!

[Mentat]

Welcome to Frog Forum Alexandra! I have a Pacman (C. cranwelli) and like it lots; but if you are looking for a frog that moves around, maybe want to consider another species. My Pacman will move from her dugout to her soaking dish every couple days and will lunge at food in front of her... but that's about it.

[RAAV]

i love big frogs and if you do to a pixie frog is the way to go and i think they all have there own little/big personalities but that could just be me and there hardey too they are by far my fave frog

[Bibilibop]

I never saw this frog in a shop... And I don't know where I could find one lol!

It could be interesting, exept the fact that I hate the picture with the mouse in the frog's mouth ( Seen on google while searching : Pixie frog)

I'll do ressearch! ^^

[RAAV]

I never saw this frog in a shop... And I don't know where I could find one lol!

It could be interesting, exept the fact that I hate the picture with the mouse in the frog's mouth ( Seen on google while searching : Pixie frog)

I'll do ressearch! ^^

they could be hard to find were you live but if you can so worth it

[Bibilibop]

Ok !

But why do you say they are so fun? Don't they look like pacman frog?
And how many gallons would you recommand?

I saw between 10 and 20 ( for the mâle)