Pac Man Ate Poop

[GrifTheGreat]

You should do as Niels stated above. You shouldn't give up. You must be responcible and care for him anyway you can. A lot of people claime that Pacmans are easy and a good starter frog, but you would not believe the number of people who come here having similar problems or worse. Pacmans as well as all other species of frog come with a huge responcibility. Far more than any dog or cat.we can help advise you on what to do ,but we can't make you fallow our instructions. If I were there I may be able to find a reason for his discomfort. Albinos can be hard to dianose skin discoloration if it is the same as one of the colors on the frog like pink and lite red.

At this point I'm going to tell you to give him a luke warm soak with Honey. 3 drops disolved in de-chlorinated water. The water needs to be up to his throat. He needs to soak for 10 minutes. You can do this in a bowl or container outside his enclosure. Sometimes this bath reduces stress.

His temps need to be no less than 80 during the day and no lower than 78 at night. This also will reduce stress because he will be warm. You need to maintain correct temps and humidity levels.

Lastly seek a herp vet because I believe that he needs to be seen to make sure that he has no infection of the skin or other problem. This is all I can do from here. Keep us posted.

[Joe9252]

well i just soaked him again he has been down in the basement where there is zero human contact this way people walking in and out wont stress him and still nothing he doesnt move he doesnt even burrow he just sit there and does nothing whatelse can i do at this point? I have no idea was cause this he just started this out of no where idk whats the cause

[GrifTheGreat]

well i just soaked him again he has been down in the basement where there is zero human contact this way people walking in and out wont stress him and still nothing he doesnt move he doesnt even burrow he just sit there and does nothing whatelse can i do at this point? I have no idea was cause this he just started this out of no where idk whats the cause

You may have to force feed him. I'm sorry, but if you don't he will starve to death. Then I want you to find a vet in your area that treats amphibians and give them a call. Set up an appointment. Haveing someone who is an expert on treating amphibians may be able to help you more than we can at this point. Also you should buy some Pedialyte that is unflavored and give him a soak in a 10 to 1 solution of the Pedialyte. For every 10 ounces of water add one ounce of Pedialyte. It should be warmed to room temp. Then soak him in it. This bath will give him electrolytes and vitamins. You can try this soak before contacting a vet first to see if he perks up. If you need instructions for force feeding we can provide that. Don't give up.

Keep me posted.

[Joe9252]

You may have to force feed him. I'm sorry, but if you don't he will starve to death. Then I want you to find a vet in your area that treats amphibians and give them a call. Set up an appointment. Haveing someone who is an expert on treating amphibians may be able to help you more than we can at this point. Also you should buy some Pedialyte that is unflavored and give him a soak in a 10 to 1 solution of the Pedialyte. For every 10 ounces of water add one ounce of Pedialyte. It should be warmed to room temp. Then soak him in it. This bath will give him electrolytes and vitamins. You can try this soak before contacting a vet first to see if he perks up. If you need instructions for force feeding we can provide that. Don't give up.

Keep me posted.

i guess at this point ill try force feeding what is the best way to do this?

[GrifTheGreat]

It is best done with 2 people. One to place their hands behind the frog so it doesn't back away and the other to force feed. You'll want to do this in a low lying area. Lay some paper towels on the floor and mist them so they are damp. This will keep the frogs belly comfertable. Of course be sure before you handle your frog that you wash your hands thoroughly. Choose a food item that is easy to digest. Worms would be good. Dust the food item. You'll need a credit card or shopper card to use to open his mouth. The easiest place to gentley pry the mouth open is on the side between the rear of the jaw and the nose. Only insert the corner of the card (gentley) between upper and lower jaw. Slowly apply pressure until he opens his mouth. You will want the food item in the other hand ready to insert in partially into the frogs mouth. You have to be quick and it may take a couple tries. Once the food has the frogs jaws closed on it your frog should do the rest.

Be patient and I can't stress enough about gentleness. They are strong so you will have go apply some presser when opening his mouth. Easiest way to get the food in is to hold it close to your frogs mouth while opening it so you can quickly place it in.

Try it out and keep me posted. This is a stressful task for both you and the frog, but has saved more than ones life in doing so.

[Joe9252]

Well I spoke with the local pet shop that specializes in pacs they recommended me to bring the heat up in the tank so I went put an purchased a 45 watt bulb and I was not able to get the tank up to 80 degrees but I can't get it any hotter also I can't get the humidity higher than 73 no matter what I do the tank it's self is foggier than anything but I can't raise the humidity any suggestions or are those conditions fine? Also is the red light ok from what I read I here it fine and what they say about red lights and albinos is very overstated

[Mikey]

Well I spoke with the local pet shop that specializes in pacs they recommended me to bring the heat up in the tank so I went put an purchased a 45 watt bulb and I was not able to get the tank up to 80 degrees but I can't get it any hotter also I can't get the humidity higher than 73 no matter what I do the tank it's self is foggier than anything but I can't raise the humidity any suggestions or are those conditions fine? Also is the red light ok from what I read I here it fine and what they say about red lights and albinos is very overstated

havent read much of the thread itself, but to answer your question, the best way to maintain proper / better temps would be to add an acrilic or plastic lid to the enclosure. I am assuming you are using a screen top that allows all of your humidity and heat to escape. You would be incredibly suprised to see the difference it makes to cover the top with something plastic.

[Joe9252]

Nope I do have a glass lid on top of the tank that's the reason it's all fogged up