Pac Man Ate Poop

[Niels D]

It isn't a bulb, it's a long glass tube (don't know the English name) and I've allready got a dimmer on it. It doesn't emmit much warmth and it really isn't bright. A breeder I know uses the same light. For heating I use a keramic bulb in combination with another dimmer. It's almost 1.5 years ago when he ate his own feces (just one time), so I think worrying about that incident is a waste of time at this moment. My pac is eating well and is doing fine. I've provided enough hides and there are several plants in his enclosure. I'm also not a beginner so I appreciate your concerns, but believe me that it's not necessary. I never mentioned that he doesn't eat anymore, because he never had any problems eating btw.

[Joe9252]

well i tried soaking him and nothing idk maybe he didnt eat it i just know its gone and he has been acting odd no matter what i do he wont eat he loves fuzzys and i left one in the tank for about 15 mins and the fuzzy was legit crawling over him and nothing didnt even moved idk last time i had a problem like this i left him in the basement for a few days in an area where no one would pass and it helped idk might do that again also i dont have any backdrops around the sides of the tank, never did beucase i have 2 heat pads on the side should i go get one tom and put it around the tank? it never seemed like an issue before... so frankly idk what do to do i just know that its beena good 4-5 days since he as eaten and i personally dont want to force feed him but i also dont know if it has gotten to that point yet???

[GrifTheGreat]

well i tried soaking him and nothing idk maybe he didnt eat it i just know its gone and he has been acting odd no matter what i do he wont eat he loves fuzzys and i left one in the tank for about 15 mins and the fuzzy was legit crawling over him and nothing didnt even moved idk last time i had a problem like this i left him in the basement for a few days in an area where no one would pass and it helped idk might do that again also i dont have any backdrops around the sides of the tank, never did beucase i have 2 heat pads on the side should i go get one tom and put it around the tank? it never seemed like an issue before... so frankly idk what do to do i just know that its beena good 4-5 days since he as eaten and i personally dont want to force feed him but i also dont know if it has gotten to that point yet???

He may be sick. If he did indeed eat his own fecies that is probably what made him sick. Also I need to ask if both heat pads arw on the same end of the tank? They need a temp gradient so they can deside whether they want to be warm of cool. Keeping both sides warm and having no cool side can cause stress. There should always be a warm side and cool side. Also if the last meal he ate for you was a pinky or fuzzy he may be constipated. They can't digest mammalian tissues easily and they should only be given to them once a month, no more than that. You may have to seek vet treatment. Let him be for another day, but keep a close eye on him. Do you use de-chlorinated water?

If it comes down to life or death you will have to force feed. If you truely want to save him when it comes right down to it you may have to. I've had to do it and its not that bad.

Keep us posted.

[GrifTheGreat]

It isn't a bulb, it's a long glass tube (don't know the English name) and I've allready got a dimmer on it. It doesn't emmit much warmth and it really isn't bright. A breeder I know uses the same light. For heating I use a keramic bulb in combination with another dimmer. It's almost 1.5 years ago when he ate his own feces (just one time), so I think worrying about that incident is a waste of time at this moment. My pac is eating well and is doing fine. I've provided enough hides and there are several plants in his enclosure. I'm also not a beginner so I appreciate your concerns, but believe me that it's not necessary. I never mentioned that he doesn't eat anymore, because he never had any problems eating btw.

That's my fault. I read the post wrong.:P I thought you said that yours wasn't eating either. I went back through and read it again. The long glass tube is a fluorescent light bulb. All UVB lights are fluorescent. I guess that since its not very bright and he has plenty of cover that it should cause no problems. Especially since he is an older and has been under it for so long without issue. They do benefit from 4 to 6 hours a day of UVB light and full spectrum light, but they aren't necissary and most Fluorescent bulbs are way to bright.

Did you make the dimmer yourself or is it specially made for these types of bulbs? Usually lamps with dimmer switches aren't compatible with fluorescent lights. I believe their is some sort of hazard that can occur if they aren't compatible. Not sure what it is because they don't go into detail. Mine are not compatible with anything but infrared/incandescent bulbs/ and ceramic heat emitters. Sorry about the misunderstanding.

[Niels D]

No problem. I'm doing my best to make myself clear in Englisch, but grammar and such differs a lot compared to the Dutch language. You're right in any case. It's a fluorescent light bulb and it's active for 3 hours a day. I use a lot of timers and dimmers for all my animals. The bulb looks a lot like this bulb: 2.0 UVB 13W 15W 24W 26W Spiral UVB Reptile CFL Bulb - Sprial, 2.0 UVB 13W 15W 24W 26W Spiral UVB Reptile CFL Bulb Manufacturer - Nanjing High-line Lighting Co. I believe it's called a CFL, but I'm not sure. You need special dimmers fot this kind of bulb, but they should be available everywhere. I use the old fashioned dimmer for the ceramic heat emitters.

You didn't have too say you're sorry of course. Maybe my post sounded a bit harsh, but I tried not to make it sound that way. Apparantly I failed to do so, but hey... blame it on the fact for me being Dutch! It would be nice though if someone could solve the mystery of the "Poop eating Pac", because I've discussed it with two friends of mine, a biolegist and a vet, but they were puzzled, just like everyone on this forum.

[Joe9252]

well he seemed better today it was actually but and then i put a night crawler in my tank he lunged at missed and then just went back into his little hole

[GrifTheGreat]

well he seemed better today it was actually but and then i put a night crawler in my tank he lunged at missed and then just went back into his little hole

Sometimes they get discouraged if they miss and get a mouth full of substrate. Have you tried tong feeding him? If not you should. Keeps them from ingesting a lot of substrate. I would try again later.

Keep me posted.

[GrifTheGreat]

No problem. I'm doing my best to make myself clear in Englisch, but grammar and such differs a lot compared to the Dutch language. You're right in any case. It's a fluorescent light bulb and it's active for 3 hours a day. I use a lot of timers and dimmers for all my animals. The bulb looks a lot like this bulb: 2.0 UVB 13W 15W 24W 26W Spiral UVB Reptile CFL Bulb - Sprial, 2.0 UVB 13W 15W 24W 26W Spiral UVB Reptile CFL Bulb Manufacturer - Nanjing High-line Lighting Co. I believe it's called a CFL, but I'm not sure. You need special dimmers fot this kind of bulb, but they should be available everywhere. I use the old fashioned dimmer for the ceramic heat emitters.

You didn't have too say you're sorry of course. Maybe my post sounded a bit harsh, but I tried not to make it sound that way. Apparantly I failed to do so, but hey... blame it on the fact for me being Dutch! It would be nice though if someone could solve the mystery of the "Poop eating Pac", because I've discussed it with two friends of mine, a biolegist and a vet, but they were puzzled, just like everyone on this forum.

Lol! I'm not going to blame it on the fact that your Dutch. Grammer from Dutch to English I can see being difficult. English is supposed to be one of the hardest languages to learn so it isn't your fault. There are even people that speak English who can't write in their own language Lol!

Before this thread I have never heard of a Pacman eating their own fecies. Its unnatural behavior. Not to mention it doesn't even look like a food item to them. Its inanimate. I'm bafflled by this and really don't know what to advise other than keeping an eye on him and seek vet treatment if he becomes ill from it. Keep trying to feed him. That's all I can advise on this.

[Joe9252]

ok so now may pac is going crazy perhaps the most odd behavior i have seen since i have got him he is bouncing all around the tank trying to like climb out ive never seen so much movement from hiim and he is legit staring at me pacing back and forth i think maybe he is now going so hungry cuz he hasnt eat in like like 5 days I dont know what to do i have nothing to feed him at all and it doesnt make sense cuz i tried feeding him a night crawler about hrs ago anf he wouldnt go near it he is legit going crazy what should i do?

ive also noticed these red areas on him what could his be he has to other areas on his back

[GrifTheGreat]

ok so now may pac is going crazy perhaps the most odd behavior i have seen since i have got him he is bouncing all around the tank trying to like climb out ive never seen so much movement from hiim and he is legit staring at me pacing back and forth i think maybe he is now going so hungry cuz he hasnt eat in like like 5 days I dont know what to do i have nothing to feed him at all and it doesnt make sense cuz i tried feeding him a night crawler about hrs ago anf he wouldnt go near it he is legit going crazy what should i do?

ive also noticed these red areas on him what could his be he has to other areas on his back

There is something wrong with your enclosure. He is trying to get out and is severely stressed. How long has it been since you changed his substrate and did you expand the substrate with de-chlorinated water?

[Joe9252]

There is something wrong with your enclosure. He is trying to get out and is severely stressed. How long has it been since you changed his substrate and did you expand the substrate with de-chlorinated water?

what could be wrong with it??? this behavior has come out of no where he wont eat i tried giving him another night crawler just now and nothing it makes no sense at all i last changed his substrate about a week and a half ago i do it about every 2 weeks i use de-chlorinated water i have been doing nothing different since i 1st got him temp right now is 75 humidity is around the same i honestly give up idk what to do at this point and its just gettin really frustrating