Twisted Frog?

[Mentat]

Sorry for your little frog! Hope you can get it to eat and it survives this ordeal. Always recommend you observe and check every animal you purchase. Any external deformity (twisted lips) could eventually cause life challenges to it. Also, bad genes can also be linked to other more serious internal problems that could manifest down the road.

[vivalabam]

I can try and get my OH to force feed, but chances are he won't. So looks like froggy may die. I'm not going to be going back until Saturday.

I knew he was a grade B when I got him, my mum brought him for me as a present. He just seemed to get worse and worse shaped as he grew until he is like he is now. His lip has also got a lot worse which could be why he stopped eating?

[vivalabam]

At the moment he is changing the tank the frog is in. Before I came home I moved King over to a bigger tank, then he stopped eating, and hasn't started again. So I told my OH so set up his old tank again, we're going to leave him in there over night and try feeding tomorrow, see if that helps at all. New temperature is going to be set up at 82 degrees. If he still doesn't eat the OH said he will try force feeding for me!

[GrifTheGreat]

Moving tanks or any changes in their environment can be very stressful for them. Unfortunately, when pacmans get stressed then often stop eating and it is very difficult to get them to start again. Keep his temps up and steady (fluctuating temps are stressful too). Monitor him closely, but try not to handle him more than necessary or disturb him. You want to keep the stress level as low as possible. If you haven't already, cover three sides of the tank with some sort of background to reduce visual stress. At this point it is very unlikely that he will eat without help. You need to force feed!

Looking back through this thread, I see that you said you dust with calcium once a week...? Calcium should be used every other feeding. The multivitamin is used once a week, but never in the same feeding as the calcium because when used simultaneously the frog's body will not absorb either as well. Not getting enough calcium may have worsened the existing genetic problems (with his lip and spin). I am not qualified to tell if the damage is permanent or not. I have seen pacs with pretty bad MBD (Metabolic Bone Disease) reverse some of the effects (such as lip deformities) through proper diet and supplements. If vet treatment is not available, you still need to get food into him. Again, I am not an expert so I can't diagnose his spinal problem, but he is starving to death. I understand that you are not their to personally do it, but he needs nutrients immediately! The longer you wait, the lower his chances of survival.

[vivalabam]

He gets 3 supplements a week, so 3 out of 7 days he would get supplemented with 4 prey items.

[GrifTheGreat]

You're saying one feeding a week with calcium, one with D3, and one with multivitamin? Regardless, that is still only one dose of calcium per week. It should be three to four times a week. So you might dust with calcium on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays and dust with the multivitamin on Sundays or something like that. You can also get calcium that has D3 in it.

[vivalabam]

You told me last time that I wasn't supposed to be dusting as much. :s My D3 does have calcium in it.