EMERGENCY: African Bullfrog Dying?

[Mikey]

Nowhere did I say they require UVB lights. UVB radiation is what causes the body to produce Vitamin D3 naturally. That's why I mentioned it. Also they do require the addition of Calcium with D3. Where do you get your info. Pacmans especially. They don't naturally produce D3 without or atleast not enough without a supplement or UVB rays which are also contained in natural sunlight. They benefit from 4 to 6 hours a day of UVB but the problem is that UVB lights are almost always too bright. For Pacmans ofcourse since they live on the forest floor. Pyxies in the wild probably receive tons or D3 since they do occationally come out in the sun. Its risky to not provide a calcium supplement.

"Supplements: A varied diet should not require supplementation but there is probably no harm in providing vitamin and mineral supplements occasionally" - African Bullfrog - Pyxicephalus adspersus - Care and Breeding

Not really sure this is even helping the thread at this point, but if the above doesnt prove that suppliments are much more optional than required, personal experience. I have currently 18 C. cranwelli, 8 Fantasy, and 14 Pixies. None of which have ever recieved suppliments or additional lighting of any sort. They have grown to full adult size in sweater box style rack systems over the years.

"They benefit from 4 to 6 hours a day of UVB but the problem is that UVB lights are almost always too bright. For Pacmans ofcourse since they live on the forest floor"

I also have boa constrictors for much longer than I have owned frogs. My boa's are almost neve exposed to any light whatsoever. Yet they grow, feed, and reproduce with no added suppliments. Boa constrictors are exposed to a lot of sunlight in the wild yet reproduce just fine in captivity.

My point is suppliment D3 is similar to Multivitamins for people. You use some of it, but most of it you pee out

[Mikey]

Grif,

Absolutely not trying to argue with you by the way. Very cool that you are as knowledgable as you are.

[GrifTheGreat]

Grif,

Absolutely not trying to argue with you by the way. Very cool that you are as knowledgable as you are.

Me either and yeah at this point its not helping. It pays to do your research. We should be more constructive and combine knowledge to help rather than debating care ideas and info.