EMERGENCY: African Bullfrog Dying?

[jjchance]

The guy who sold me him at an expo told me he is an African Bullfrog. He's only 6 months old. So, I don't think he's a dwarf.

[Mikey]

I was trying to be helpful.
The frog you posted is an edulis, not an adspersus. The feeding response from edulis or dwarf pixies is much less than that of an adspersus. A temperature drop could have turned him off from food as they have given me trouble with feeding in the past.

You are from Mass. correct? im assuming u purchased the frog from either the white plains reptile show or the hamburg reptile show. ( I am from albany, NY). Vendors at these shows will sell you "African Bullfrogs" with out specifying what species its very common I see it all the time, as I vend at the PA show.

Regardless Hope everything turns out well...

[GrifTheGreat]

pyxiecephylus Adspersus grow pretty fast. At 6 month old he should be much larger than yours is, but the reason why he is stunted is because you haven't dusted his food with a calcium supplement which they have to be given or else they develope MBD. This eventually causes them to not be able to move their extremities and or be able to feed. If not treated quickly to give your frog a chance to survive you need to see a vet that specializes in amphibians and reptiles so you can try an reverse the process.

If it is MBD and he is not treated soon he will die. I'm not trying to sound harsh, but its true.

[Mikey]

pyxiecephylus Adspersus grow pretty fast. At 6 month old he should be much larger than yours is, but the reason why he is stunted is because you haven't dusted his food with a calcium supplement which they have to be given or else they develope MBD. This eventually causes them to not be able to move their extremities and or be able to feed. If not treated quickly to give your frog a chance to survive you need to see a vet that specializes in amphibians and reptiles so you can try an reverse the process.

If it is MBD and he is not treated soon he will die. I'm not trying to sound harsh, but its true.

The frog is not stunted, its not an Adspersus so his size is fine. I also doubt it has MDB, thats jumping the gun completely. I have never once dusted any of the food items I offered my frogs. between rodents, worms, roaches, insects they will have already recieved all the nutrition ie. calcium they need.

[GrifTheGreat]

The frog is not stunted, its not an Adspersus so his size is fine. I also doubt it has MDB, thats jumping the gun completely. I have never once dusted any of the food items I offered my frogs. between rodents, worms, roaches, insects they will have already recieved all the nutrition ie. calcium they need.

He said it can't WALK so while everyone is fighting over what species it is, the frog still can't walk and which means it can't feed. 3 weeks is also too long for them to not eat in correct temps without estivation and the body working at normal metabolism. The temps did not impare its ability to walk nor did the breed of pyxie. So how is this helping with the problem at hand.

[Peachy]

relax

[GrifTheGreat]

The frog is not stunted, its not an Adspersus so his size is fine. I also doubt it has MDB, thats jumping the gun completely. I have never once dusted any of the food items I offered my frogs. between rodents, worms, roaches, insects they will have already recieved all the nutrition ie. calcium they need.

relax

I'm relaxed. I'm stating the facts. Also without dusting with vitamin D3 or having a UVB light to produce Vitamin D3 naturally they cant metabolize the calcium received from their food properly. They MUST have D3 in which these are the only 2 ways they receive it. And without it they usually contract MBD from not being able to properly metabolize the cacium and therfore it passes on through their system and they don keep hardly any of it. Not being able to walk is one of the signs of MBD and since he has never dust the frogs food even as a froglet then this is a high probability. I'm not angry I'm just trying to save its life.

[Malachi]

Well its not stunted. Its a smaller sized species. That is where species is important.

I am willing to help but we need more info perhaps the OP will PM me so i can try to get to the bottom of this.

[Mikey]

I'm relaxed. I'm stating the facts. Also without dusting with vitamin D3 or having a UVB light to produce Vitamin D3 naturally they cant metabolize the calcium received from their food properly. They MUST have D3 in which these are the only 2 ways they receive it. And without it they usually contract MBD from not being able to properly metabolize the cacium and therfore it passes on through their system and they don keep hardly any of it. Not being able to walk is one of the signs of MBD and since he has never dust the frogs food even as a froglet then this is a high probability. I'm not angry I'm just trying to save its life.

Calcium metabolism in pixies and pacman is much similar to that of snakes. They do not require UVB or the addition of D3 calcium suppliment. If you were talking about bearded dragons, you would be correct.

That being said my pyxies were grown to complete full size with no issues whatsoever within rack systems. With the only light provided being the flourescent light that lights the room. They require no UVB. Not sure where you came across different.

[Malachi]

This frog is a smaller species of african bullfrog. I own this species (i was told it was a giant as well) and the "true giants" Unfortunately there is a little information on any species of africain bullfrog other than the "true giants" from south africa. There seem to be multiple species of pixie frog all mushed into the "dwarf african bullfrog" label. The bad thing is we don't really have a good information on where these frogs are from and what is their habitat. For all we know they could be from cool mountain streams in Tanzania.

I have learned from trial and error on this species;

The frog likes it at around 75 day and 68 or so night. Any hotter and he starts to bury its self.

The frog likes water, it will spend all its time in water. It likes to be nearly fully submerged. if the temperature is too hot it will leave the water and bury its self.

The frog estivate quickly and stay that way for much longer then my South African species.

Feel free to PM me if you have further questions. I have kept my guy alive for 2 years now.

[Peachy]

There seem to be multiple species of pixie frog all mushed into the "dwarf african bullfrog" label.

The frog likes it at around 75 day and 68 or so night. Any hotter and he starts to bury its self.

The frog likes water, it will spend all its time in water if the temperature is too hot.

The frog estivate quickly and stay that way for much longer then my South African species.

Feel free to PM me if you have further questions. I have kept my guy alive for 2 years now.

true, i have been fooled once before but my "dwarf" pixie was the shiz. had an appetite like a fat boy. i would say you're about spot on with the temps cause mine behaved the same way